[CaptainCrunch]

I'm going to the movie next week, I know the story elements, I'm more interested in how they shoot it and link it together and pace it. I'm still excited to see it.

On a side note, when you look at the end game of Darth Sidious its always about power, and the ability to cast away morality in pursuit of a higher purpose.

The basic story of Palpatine in the PT was that he was extremely powerful, and he wanted to tear down a chaotic and corrupt government that was in effect based in what he saw as the flawed concept of morality. The Sith always feel that equality is a lie, a chain that drags everything down and the strong should rule the weak. When we got to the OT we saw that rule in effect. We didn't see alien Storm Troopers or ship commanders except for Thrawn. Palpatine felt that the galaxy should be ruled by one enlighted person and everyone else should serve his view of what's best. When you look at the new movie from what I've read and seen, it just seems like he became about personal revenge. The Sith wanted revenge on the Jedi for a genocide carried out by them thousands of years ago. But it just didn't seem like he was interested in being much more then a really powerful villain without a true goal.

In terms of the whole seduction thing. If you watch the PT and the Clone Wars series, his seducation of Anakin was this brilliant long term trap. He was really the honest Iago combined with Satan. He doted over Anakin like a father, told him that he was more powerful then any jedi, convinced him that the Jedi were afraid of his power and thus denied him his destiny and they didn't trust him. He was like a slow burning virus. He found the levers that Anakin was frighted of, the Jedi finding out about the slaughter of the Tuskens, the execution of Dooku in a murderous fashion and the death of his wife. He also talked to him about how the concept of evil was a jedi fabrication, that the Jedi and Sith were alike in their quest for power, that the Jedi didn't understand the force. The most brilliant scene in that whole trilogy was the opera house. Not just for the story of Darth Plageus the wise, but also what comes before that.

In the OT I thought that Palpatine's seduction of Luke was really lazy. I'm going to piss you off, threaten your friends and convince you to kill me. Vader had a better sense of how a Sith makes a Jedi fall. You have a sister, great, since you're so reluctant maybe your sister will see the truth of things. When you go back and watch ROTJ after watching the PT and the Clone Wars its the one thing that really seems off about Palpatine.

In this one, looking at it, Palpatine saying if you strike me down, all of the Sith will kind of occupy you and give you power isn't much of a seduction line. Even the so call seduction of Kylo by Snoke isn't covered at all, and just doesn't work. They literally handicapped the Sith and made them lesser except for the PT, especially the AOTC that contained maybe 3 minutes of Palpatine but you could imagine him manipulating everyone on the background.

In the EU, whenever they covered the Sith, the most fun part of reading it was how they would make Jedi fall, and how strategy minded they were. and how good they were at corrupting what was good by using the truth and applying it like a weapon.