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Originally Posted by stone hands
it kind of is. if they dont know what a strawman is then then you can explain the concept and why their argument is a strawman. if they still dont get it then there's no point in continuing to discuss whatever with them
fwiw i'm not advocating just saying
HAH, STRAWMAN. OWNED
arguing that logical fallacies are as valid as good faith, logical arguments because its pretentious to point out why people are making illogical statements is a baffling proposition to me
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It really isn’t. And it’s because almost everytime I’ve ever seen someone point out a fallacy it seems low effort and lazy. It’s not hard to explain a straw man or tu quoque. And yeah most of the time pretty much exactly what I see is “pfft resorting to a straw man, typical” as a dickish way to try and win an argument.
Seriously how lazy and pretend intellectual are people who feel the need to point out ad hominem attacks?
You’re also assuming that people are correctly identifying the fallacy. If you explain why their argument is incorrect, at least you’re forced to address the errors. Simply calling out a fallacy doesn’t provide any evidence that they did use a fallacy.
I also find that people who rely on calling out fallacy’s are often guilty of the fallacy fallacy. Or that they’re hoping they can win the argument via proof by intimidation.
Not to mention that logical fallacies are rarely, if ever, used in daily life. They’re for people who want to pretend the internet is a philosophy 201 class and they’re trying to impress the instructor with how smart they are.