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Old 12-14-2019, 07:34 AM   #323
powderjunkie
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IMO it's pretty naive to think Deynzer acted alone on this...several of the 'leaders'/'alphas' in that room almost certainly had a part in hatching this whole scheme (think about Aliu being told to come a little later...)

I would venture that his teammates probably fell into 3 groups:
1. active proponents for this thing
2. unaware and/or just going with the flow without a second thought
3. may have had a non-specific uneasy feeling about it to whatever extent they were aware, but didn't know enough/feel strongly enough to do anything about it at the time.

As a bystander (and mid twenties guy 10 years ago), I think it would be a pretty darn hard thing to stand up to your teammates before/during these events. The most I could honestly see myself doing in these shoes is saying something like "you guys are a bunch of ####s" to group #1...but not in any way where I expected them to change (not easy to articulate the tone of this through written text, but I suspect some people will get what I'm saying - basically a soft message that what you're doing is wrong, but I'm not your mother).

Hopefully at least a few of the guys from group 3 were able to commiserate with Aliu and let him know they didn't think it wasn't 'cool'.
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