12-12-2019, 12:23 PM
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#277
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
But again, it was a minority of Canadians who made that choice for the rest of us. That’s our democracy.
The idea that everyone, or even a majority of people gave Trudeau a “pass” is false. As is the idea that anyone here is defending Trudeau or giving him a pass. At worst, there are people talking about the degrees of “bad” each incident falls under, and I’m not really seeing any of those degrees putting Trudeau in the “totally fine!” space. I think what most people are saying is that bringing up Trudeau feels like a distraction. It doesn’t feel like people wanting to have a genuine conversation, or wanting to add context to the conversation of racism in this sport. It feels like people who just want to take a jab at Trudeau, claim everyone is hypocritical, and do basically anything they can to avoid addressing THIS issue, by just saying “Oh well nothing happened to our PM soooooooooo.”
So while people did vote for Trudeau anyway, and the Liberal party did keep him in, we need to stop holding that against 100% of Canadians, or at least stop acting like the people talking about this issue are some hypocrites that all voted for Trudeau.
Eventually people are going to have to grow up and realise that life isn’t fair. Sometimes what we feel should be a “standard” just isn’t. Sometimes you go from one job to another and the standard changes, you go from one social circle to another and the standard changes. A private organisation has a different standard than a political party. Yeah, it can suck. I think I can speak for the majority when I say I genuinely wish Trudeau was flat on his ass somewhere instead of leading this country. But that’s also life. I can’t control that, just like I can’t control what NHL coach gets fired. And I’m not going to go looking to demonise anyone who has an opinion a coach by saying “but Trudeauuuuuu!”
I mean, we can’t even have a conversation about what parts of this situation make it different (you could argue worse) than what Trudeau did. It’s not even meant to excuse Trudeau, but to show how bad this situation was, and still a few dummies go “NOPE! Trudeau bad! All equally bad! No talking about degrees!”
That doesn’t sound like people who want to have a conversation about racism. It sounds like people who want to shut that conversation down. And if we can’t talk about it, it’s never actually going to get better. Some people don’t even understand what racism is, and yet some people think we should even talk about it.
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Quoted for truth. PepsiFree the voice of reason in this thread.
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