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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
I consider Hamilton an elite offensive defenceman. Carolina will be enjoying this for a while once they pony up a new contract. They have quite a few talented forwards in their group.
Lindholm has been one of our best forwards all year. Once the cap of Dougie comes in next season I’d almost be happy with where we are at right here.
Then there is Hanifin who I believe you are really understating. He is, at his absolute worst, a serviceable top 4 NHL dman. This season he is 3rd in blocks, and 3rd in hits (leading flames D) on the team. 2nd in Time on Ice (both averaged and actual). His +\- is low, there is no debating that. But the team has also struggled and that is a stat that can fluctuate wildly. He has physical ability in size and speed, and hopefully progresses.
Overall I see the Flames improving a position of weakness by utilizing depth at a strength. Dougie will be in the league still when we would likely use him, but we had a glaring need for a forward and ended up with a great 2 way forward at that. That’s why I think both teams won.
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I’m fine with you liking Hanifin, he does have the tools. But I don’t really love your evidence. Being third in blocked shots isn’t actually a good thing... there’s a saying that blocking shots is like killing rats, its good sure but obviously the bigger problem is why are there rats in the first place. Kris Russell is great at blocking shots and I don’t want him on my team.
I have no idea what his plus minus is and I really don’t care because I believe it to be a completely worthless stat. I’m more worried about the drop off in offence and continuing trend of being a poor possession player. But as I and another said earlier, I’d sure love to see what he can do with a different partner.
Totally agree on Lindholm tho and that’s why I don’t call it an outright loss... in my opinion the trade is close to even but I tend to say its a slight loss because I value Hamilton so much. That said, if they move Lindholm to center full time and he excels there and anchors his own line... then I’ll happily call the trade a win.