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Originally Posted by Azure
Says who? Labeling them as terrible human beings is jumping to a complete extreme. Perhaps they are very good humans who have a switch they can turn on when they are coaching.
Like I said earlier, there is a HUGE difference between actual abuse, both verbal and physical, and a coach simply pushing buttons and being hard on guys. People like you label the coaches that are hard as terrible human beings and basically blur the line.
So far you have said Darryl Sutter, Marc Crawford and Bob Hartley are all terrible human beings who manipulate and intimidate players. Outside of a few select NHL players who like to whine about not getting a chance, most players who played under those coaches and were actually successful have never said more than what amounts to 'end of their shelf life, tactics don't work, etc, etc.' They certainly don't go around calling them the scum of the earth, and even if they would I would take it with a huge grain of salt. I'm 100% of the opinion that at the NHL level, 99% of the coaches and people in the game are good people try their best. Sure, there is a lot of old school mentality still in the game, but many teams are changing that as well, and the players seem to adapt well.
I'll ask the question again, what do you think Berube did in St. Louis last year? Bake cookies and give the players a hug at the end of the game? We are literally talking one of the hardest players to ever play the game, and from all accounts he coaches like that as well. Any St. Louis players come out and throw him under the bus yet?  |
You’re the one jumping to extremes and labeling them as terrible human beings. I said they rely on simplistic tactics.
Kevin Bieksa reiterated that point last night on HNIC. Several coaches aren’t that bright, so they need to resort to these sort of tactics.
Based on your diatribes you clearly can not see the nuances in how to improve coaching and coaches as you resort to polarized thinking and arguments.
So what are the choices for Craig Berube?
Kicking players in the back or baking cookies with hugs?
Are those the only options or is it possible for a coach to continually learn and evolve his approach without physical abuse while bettering his understanding of the psychology of his personnel to avoid being an bullying abusive a-hole ?
It’s about being fair & firm & teaching when it’s required. To do this in a way that is healthy requires intelligence not just simplistic lazy tactics.
You can complain all you want about players needing to be motivated by a hard ass coach, but that’s not going to make some of these tactics palatable.
These players will as always exist, the challenge now is for highly paid coaches to utilize their high intellect & almost bottomless resources to reach them in ways that don’t belittle and abuse them.
This isn’t 1975/85/95 anymore. We know & understand exponentially more about all of these things. It’s about coaching consuming & applying the knowledge that exists. If anything, Craig Berube probably did this more than anything else.
Additionally, roster construction has as much or more to do with winning than coaching does. Both are important.