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DeluxeMoustache · 12-01-2019, 11:06 AM

^ I am curious what Aliu’s case would be. How “derailed” was his career? He was in the NHL 2 years after the Peters incident and was never a 100 percent sure thing.

He was recognized on that NHL central scouting form as having very good to excellent skills in certain areas with average marks for work ethic and discipline. High marks on skills and low marks in competitiveness and defensive play.

Some highlights:
Player type: power forward
Pro potential: 6 - Good chance to play in NHL. Needs time to develop
Pro ranking - potential role should he make the NHL: 8. 1st line / top 2 D
Deserves consideration as one of the best prospects in these areas: Fighting, shot

Skating was generally ranked as very good.
Same with puck skills
Work ethic average, consistency poor
Average marks for back checking and defensive reliability.

I think that the NHL has changed a bit between then and now. More emphasis on speed and less on fighting. To me, the issues of consistency and work ethic have a lot to do with bubble players sticking.

Aliu did make the NHL, he showed flashes, and was given a fair shot in Calgary. He has bounced around afterwards, and a few times since then has played for 3 teams in one year.

Different people have different paths to the NHL. Some draftees don’t make it but he did. He was a feel good story when he made it, but he didn’t stick.

Being 30 now, he was, what, 22 or 23 when he made it? That is on track time wise for a lot of kids who get their first look.

He got into his first NHL games with Calgary 2 seasons after the Peters incident, as far as I can tell.

I know that there is a significant jump in earning potential between minor leagues to NHL, where the minimum wage of 695 K at the time (or whatever) is life changing.

Lawsuits in Canada as far as I understand generally involve damages that can be demonstrated.

I probably have no idea what they are based on in the US.

I guess my question is if he is suing anyone, be it an organization or a league, how he intends to demonstrate on the balance of probability that someone stopped him from making x dollars.

12-01-2019, 11:06 AM	#628
DeluxeMoustache Moustache Join Date: Mar 2010 Exp:	^ I am curious what Aliu’s case would be. How “derailed” was his career? He was in the NHL 2 years after the Peters incident and was never a 100 percent sure thing. He was recognized on that NHL central scouting form as having very good to excellent skills in certain areas with average marks for work ethic and discipline. High marks on skills and low marks in competitiveness and defensive play. Some highlights: Player type: power forward Pro potential: 6 - Good chance to play in NHL. Needs time to develop Pro ranking - potential role should he make the NHL: 8. 1st line / top 2 D Deserves consideration as one of the best prospects in these areas: Fighting, shot Skating was generally ranked as very good. Same with puck skills Work ethic average, consistency poor Average marks for back checking and defensive reliability. I think that the NHL has changed a bit between then and now. More emphasis on speed and less on fighting. To me, the issues of consistency and work ethic have a lot to do with bubble players sticking. Aliu did make the NHL, he showed flashes, and was given a fair shot in Calgary. He has bounced around afterwards, and a few times since then has played for 3 teams in one year. Different people have different paths to the NHL. Some draftees don’t make it but he did. He was a feel good story when he made it, but he didn’t stick. Being 30 now, he was, what, 22 or 23 when he made it? That is on track time wise for a lot of kids who get their first look. He got into his first NHL games with Calgary 2 seasons after the Peters incident, as far as I can tell. I know that there is a significant jump in earning potential between minor leagues to NHL, where the minimum wage of 695 K at the time (or whatever) is life changing. Lawsuits in Canada as far as I understand generally involve damages that can be demonstrated. I probably have no idea what they are based on in the US. I guess my question is if he is suing anyone, be it an organization or a league, how he intends to demonstrate on the balance of probability that someone stopped him from making x dollars. Last edited by DeluxeMoustache; 12-01-2019 at 11:09 AM.