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Originally Posted by nobles_point
Here, let me help you get this.
1. I didn’t say he doesn’t know how to coach. I said his style of coaching relies on manipulation & intimidation, which it does.
2. If anything I’m talking about the ends justifying the means in coaching. This discussion is about NOT using psychological & physical abuse in coaching hockey. It’s not a discussion about winning championships. Bob Hartley & Marc Crawford also won championships while being even worse human beings than Sutter. Whoopity doo!
So look in the mirror for evidence of not knowing what you’re talking about, because this thread is literally not what you are talking about.
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Says who? Labeling them as terrible human beings is jumping to a complete extreme. Perhaps they are very good humans who have a switch they can turn on when they are coaching.
Like I said earlier, there is a HUGE difference between actual abuse, both verbal and physical, and a coach simply pushing buttons and being hard on guys. People like you label the coaches that are hard as terrible human beings and basically blur the line.
So far you have said Darryl Sutter, Marc Crawford and Bob Hartley are all terrible human beings who manipulate and intimidate players. Outside of a few select NHL players who like to whine about not getting a chance, most players who played under those coaches and were actually successful have never said more than what amounts to 'end of their shelf life, tactics don't work, etc, etc.' They certainly don't go around calling them the scum of the earth, and even if they would I would take it with a huge grain of salt. I'm 100% of the opinion that at the NHL level, 99% of the coaches and people in the game are good people try their best. Sure, there is a lot of old school mentality still in the game, but many teams are changing that as well, and the players seem to adapt well.
I'll ask the question again, what do you think Berube did in St. Louis last year? Bake cookies and give the players a hug at the end of the game? We are literally talking one of the hardest players to ever play the game, and from all accounts he coaches like that as well. Any St. Louis players come out and throw him under the bus yet?
