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Old 11-28-2019, 09:33 AM   #433
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How can you say it cannot be easily taken as such?
... because it is internally inconsistent. It is not cogent. It does not make any sense. If you can provide some explanation for why a person who is so concerned about the offensive power of the word "n#####" would express his concerns about said offensive power of the word "n#####" to the only black person in the room (who might legitimately find the word "n#####" offensive, especially when uttered at him by a white authority figure, by repeatedly and gratuitously uttering the word "n#####", I am all ears. I would love to understand it.

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I literally gave you a quote from someone else that started exactly the same way that used the N word and wasn't racist in nature.
I didn't really find your quote particularly helpful. It included a much more fulsome explanation. I presume that this wasn't a case where your father is white and you are black. Also, your father's quote still suffers from the same internal inconsistency that Bill Peter's remarks suffer from. If he didn't want you to listen to NWA because he finds the word "n#####" offensive or inappropriate, why would he needlessly use that word while communicating his concerns with you? I have no idea. It doesn't help me understand why Bill Peters said what he said at all.

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As you said you give advice on workplace issues like this, let me ask you in a case where someone says something insensitive to someone else, how often would you estimate that it is someone saying something stupid, rather than malicious? In my experience as someone who also has to deal with such matters, I find most are just tactless stupidity and not intended to be malicious in nature. That said, you still have to punish them accordingly, even when you know it was most likely just stupidity.
Short answer: I don't think the spectrum is limited to stupid and malicious. And in any event, such statistics aren't really helpful in analyzing a particular situation.
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