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Originally Posted by redpaint
The only coaches to win Stanley cups with multiple teams:
- Dick Irvin ('32 Leafs, '44, '46, '53 Canadiens)
- Tommy Gorman ('34 Hawks, '35 Maroons)
- Scotty Bowman ('73 Canadiens, '76-'79 Canadiens, '92 Penguins, '97-'98 Wings, '02 Wings)
Can we stop chasing has-beens already? Get some new blood, some no name who goes fishing with old Walt, I don't care. I am sick of hearing about trying to score a coach on their way out / pretty much retired. |
True, but the opposing argument is that sometimes you end up with a Pierre Page, a Don Hay, a Greg Gilbert...
Or you go with guys that had some experience as a head coach and came from (at the time) well thought of coaching circles - Glen Gulutzan, Brent Sutter..
It isn't a matter of avoiding re-treads and has-beens, or avoiding up-and-comers and new but unproven blood. It is a matter of finding the right fit.
Those allegations by Carcillo are a bit alarming, but are at least tempered by the VERY outspoken Commodore, but unquestionably Darryl Sutter has been a really damn good coach in every stop he has made, and has continually turned teams around, if even only for a few seasons at a time.
As for the Bob Hartley jokes - still underrated, but I am sure would have no consideration by Treliving. He built an effective system that this team played under, and they played hard. Those Flames teams played harder under him than any other coach since Darryl. I would bet that he is smart enough to tailor a system to the make-up of a team (that is one thing I really liked about him too), rather than trying to fit square pegs into round holes. He has won a championship at every single league he has ever coached in, and if that's not impressive, I don't know what is. You just know with especially what is transpiring right now, that he wouldn't have any consideration at all (and probably rightfully so). I do, however, think that he was such an underrated coach here that actually got this team to play extremely hard and vastly exceeded anyone's expectations. There is just no way he will ever be considered.
Ward is just the safest and most logical choice right now, and as a bonus, he is looked upon as one of those 'new blood' coaches that people were talking about. Flames would be smart to at least have a prolonged look and see how ready he is. More options will open up in the off-season as usual anyway.