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Originally Posted by Vinny01
I disagree with this take for the most part. Treliving is taking heat from you for adding players using cap space and no other asset and he is taking heat from you for moving futures in trades.
What is he supposed to do. Just draft players and hope enough pan out to build a team? Had we done that we could be staring down missing the playoffs every year with the exception of 2015.
Top free agents don’t want to come to Calgary. I agree with those that think the Hamonic trade was a bad move but getting a top 4 D making less than $4M for 3 years that wanted to be in Western Canada made sense. Brouwer had a big playoff and wanted to be here. He was a right shot with size and fit a need at the time. When he signed Neal the team looked like they needed another top 6 forward and while that appeared to not be the case last year it sure does this year.
The team was starting from scratch when he was hired. They had one top 6 pick then another 4th overall with a very high end prospect in Gaudreau. He has build a playoff team 3 of the 5 years he has been GM this organization has made the playoffs 5 of the previous 17 years. The team has drafted better under him and he has won some pretty big trades as well. I like that he has the guts to make big trades and while not everything can be a hit I think he has done better than you are giving him credit for
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I want him to not waste very valuable cap space on Troy Brouwer and James Neal, ya absolutely. And throw Stone in there as well. And don’t waste picks on players like Lazar and Elliot. He deserves heavy criticism for all these moves. Hamonic trade was bad, and I absolutely do not agree with your assessment that it ‘made sense’ at the time, the trade was highly divisive and a large number of analysts pointed out that it was a ton to pay for a player that was coming off consecutive poor seasons. He has wasted an inordinate amount of draft picks in bad trades and nearly every free agent signing he has made has been an abject failure. The initial Dougie Hamilton trade has bought him a ton of good will but he has wasted that away in my opinion. Lotta people love the second Hamilton trade but to me it is so so at best, didn’t really waste good Will imo but didn’t gain any in my estimation. And I won’t bring up his latest trade but woof.
And ya, build through the draft. That’s how most good organizations build. Prudent free agent signings are fine, not too much cap at not too long of term is fine. Patience was key and he got way too impatient and here we are.
Finally found a goaltender but up until now every move he had made there had been terrible, wasting valuable assets along the way. His coaching hires look bad. I just fail to see what he is so good at.
Also what is this ‘start from scratch’ bs? If memory serves me correct he was handed Monahan, Gaudreau, Giordano, Backlund and Brodie as major pieces. Sorry but that is not starting from scratch, those were all valuable assets. Along with the 4th overall pick, a draft that we can now look back upon as a total failure. And I’m not just talking about Bennett, that whole draft was brutal. All the aforementioned assets still make up the majority of the key pieces of this team. He absolutely did not start with nothing. Total bs.