[mrdonkey]

He's been massively overrated for most of his tenure here. He's had some good moves and some bad moves, but the bad moves have been REALLY bad and the good moves have been gambles that could've gone either way. Drafting has been horrendous IMO. I don't think he's a guy who takes you to anything more than a middle of the pack team.

I wish I could have the same kind of faith that Jiri does that stability will eventually lead to success, but that only holds water when you're committing to a guy who can build a winner. He's had six years and the team is in shambles, coaching hires have been questionable or worse, he stuck himself right up against the cap by committing huge amounts of unmovable money to the bottom half of the roster, and the pipeline is barren. This franchise has nothing going for it and I really don't understand why the architect of that that situation deserves loyalty. D Sutter was let go for creating an almost identical set of circumstances and he hasn't had another sniff at a GM position since. I suspect Treliving wouldn't either, if he were let go today.