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Originally Posted by cannon7
You know you can attack my ideas without making it personal, right? Saying "you're wrong, you don't know what that means, etc." doesn't push the discussion. I could counter with "neither do you", but I don't bother because it's equally pointless.
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Sorry, I wanted to address this, what do you feel has crossed the line into "personal"? All my criticisms have been of your ideas, not you as a person. It is not up to me nor is it up to anyone else to walk you through why you're wrong, finding those answers is your responsibility, but people have certainly tried. Your ideas/points/opinions have ranged from false to complete nonsense.
You blamed the CBC and by extension the government for Don's firing, it was fully explained why this was wrong and didn't make sense.
You then mentioned "the chilling effect" which, again, is not true or representative of the situation.
You used an incomplete definition of racism, and when provided with the correct definition, you shrugged it off.
You've suggested immigrants don't care about this or that most don't even know who Don Cherry is. Not only is there evidence in this thread refuting the former, but you couldn't
possibly know the latter.
You've claimed people who assume he was talking about immigrants of differences races are the racist ones, this ignores basic logic and Cherry's statement.
You've suggested we're in "thought crime" territory. This is false, the consequences were based on what he said, not what he might think.
You've repeated mischaracterized other posters points and ideas while suggesting people are mischaracterizing Cherry's. This is not only hypocritical, but it's one of the reasons why your contributions have not been effective. This includes framing someone who doesn't like intolerance as "intolerant" and suggesting that anyone has implied Canadians don't talk to immigrants.
So, I'm sorry, but if you want to "push the discussion" and not simply have people tell you that you're wrong, stop spreading false information, stop applying the wrong definition of things that are already defined, and stop mischaracterizing others with the constant, tiring, "no, it's actually you who is intolerant/racist/bigot" etc. etc. It's hard to have a discussion under these circumstances, so, do you actually want one?
Again, these are criticisms of your ideas. Who you are is and has been irrelevant to the conversation, so please stop pretending it's personal.