One of my favs is:
tangentially speaking (by Chris Ryan - he's also been on Joe Rogan couple of times)
- Think he's a PhD psychologist by profession; also an author, but more importantly he's simply one good human
- trying to think of a "gateway" episode, but probably best to look at the guests and see who resonates with you as he has a wide variety
Maybe: #378 John Harrison (therapist, works with psychedelics, was once a fugitive!) and Daniele Bolelli #374 (History on Fire host) would be decent start
{I searched and didn't see this one come up, so apologies if a duplicate}
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