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Originally Posted by The Yen Man
Guess agree to disagree then. How does a cheesy storyline become a flaw when its based on opinion rather than game mechanics? What if I like the cheesy storyline? I wouldn't say Last of Us is even close to perfect, there's a bunch of flaws there to. The whole zombie / dystopian future has been so over done as well, if cheesy is flaw, then so is pretty much every dystopian future storyline.
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I guess I'm responding to this late, but... it's not agree to disagree, you're just wrong. There is clearly a difference between a work that is the one you most enjoy despite obvious flaws, and a work with no obvious flaws, that you might just not enjoy because of your personal taste. They're different criteria.
The Last of Us does have a couple of flaws, but just "it's a dystopian zombie game" is a pretty weak retort. It does dystopian zombie game better pretty much flawlessly - even the design of the "zombies" is beautifully thought out. Having a cheesy story is one of those things that's both subjective and objective, in the sense that some things are less cheesy to some people, but there can be a broad consensus about what is cheesy. The writing in JRPGs is generally super overdramatic and often very silly, compared to, say, the writing in Planescape:Torment. Speaking of JRPGs, here's a good example to demonstrate what's wrong with some of these picks - no one in this thread has mentioned Cosmic Star Heroine. Why is that? It does the 16bit party JRPG thing incredibly well, has a strong soundtrack, excellent graphics for its genre, an amazingly good combat system... but it doesn't have the nostalgia attached to it, because it came out in 2017. This just shows you that you're choosing things not because of their inherent quality but because of your personal attachment to them, and those are, again, very different criteria.