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La Flames Fan · 01-20-2007, 11:49 AM

While I would consider myself a "Democrat", I don't think Hillary is either good nor popular enough to be president/win.

I'm not sure why the media wants her to be and run for President so bad because the people I speak to have no desire to vote for her. She is quite disliked.

I look at the field of other Democrats like Chris Dodd, Obama, Edwards, Kucinich, Biden and I like the looks of them rather than Hillary. Obama may very well take the ticket with his charisma alone. Edwards is a underdog who may actually surprise some people. Kucinich doesn't have a chance in hell, but he will certainly raise some great ideas and pressure other candidates. Biden is the other who may just give the top ones a run for their money. He's well experienced, has held good positions and seems to have a good following.

I don't see a Hillary Clinton in all of this. I don't think it would be smart to have her as the ticket there are a lot of people with a lot of distaste for her.

EDIT:

The Republicans got handed a can of WHOOPASS this last election cycle. It was fairly well known the Dems would take the congress but they took the senate too which was incredible. The American people said Change the Direction. I actually disagree that this is a Republican party issue to figure out in terms of Iraq. Clearly, almost four years later, they haven't been correct in any of their choices. While the President gathers a group of people to look over Iraq, they suggest ideas - most having the words redeployment or phased withdrawl. What does the President do, ignore them completely and send some 20,000 more troops to Iraq.

Even Republican leaders like Chuck Hagel cannot understand why. The top generals when the war began and the recently let-go Abizaid (sp?) said that to truly "win" in Iraq you have to have anywhere from 200,000 to 450,000 troops on the ground. This paltry 20,000 who will go to Iraq will make no difference and only put more American lives in danger. Yet there are still Republicans who think this is a great plan. John McCain, Rich Santorum, Bill Frist all stand by the President.

The Republicans have had their chance to change the course in Iraq, but it's getting worse, this can no longer be put in the hands of the rightwing.

01-20-2007, 11:49 AM	#10
La Flames Fan THE Chuck Storm Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Calgary Exp:	While I would consider myself a "Democrat", I don't think Hillary is either good nor popular enough to be president/win. I'm not sure why the media wants her to be and run for President so bad because the people I speak to have no desire to vote for her. She is quite disliked. I look at the field of other Democrats like Chris Dodd, Obama, Edwards, Kucinich, Biden and I like the looks of them rather than Hillary. Obama may very well take the ticket with his charisma alone. Edwards is a underdog who may actually surprise some people. Kucinich doesn't have a chance in hell, but he will certainly raise some great ideas and pressure other candidates. Biden is the other who may just give the top ones a run for their money. He's well experienced, has held good positions and seems to have a good following. I don't see a Hillary Clinton in all of this. I don't think it would be smart to have her as the ticket there are a lot of people with a lot of distaste for her. EDIT: The Republicans got handed a can of WHOOPASS this last election cycle. It was fairly well known the Dems would take the congress but they took the senate too which was incredible. The American people said Change the Direction. I actually disagree that this is a Republican party issue to figure out in terms of Iraq. Clearly, almost four years later, they haven't been correct in any of their choices. While the President gathers a group of people to look over Iraq, they suggest ideas - most having the words redeployment or phased withdrawl. What does the President do, ignore them completely and send some 20,000 more troops to Iraq. Even Republican leaders like Chuck Hagel cannot understand why. The top generals when the war began and the recently let-go Abizaid (sp?) said that to truly "win" in Iraq you have to have anywhere from 200,000 to 450,000 troops on the ground. This paltry 20,000 who will go to Iraq will make no difference and only put more American lives in danger. Yet there are still Republicans who think this is a great plan. John McCain, Rich Santorum, Bill Frist all stand by the President. The Republicans have had their chance to change the course in Iraq, but it's getting worse, this can no longer be put in the hands of the rightwing. __________________ Mediapop Films Last edited by La Flames Fan; 01-20-2007 at 12:01 PM.