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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
Azure did not once use the word 'criticize' in the last four pages. His point is very dismissive of people without enough "life" experience, and is lamenting the media focus on someone who is whining.
Some of you are focusing too much on the spokesperson, the rally point, the galvanizer. While Thunberg may not be the scientist you are chiding her for (not to mention her speech delivery style that makes people uncomfortable), I am sure it is not hard to see that she represents a perspective on climate change that is not dismissive and should be addressed.
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What perspective is that? How should it be addressed? Are you suggesting that people are not fighting climate change now? Is over the top hysteria and thrashing around in vain and ultimately ineffective and damaging policies going to make the situation better?
Azure gave a bunch of good examples but here’s another one. As it stands right now the TMX stands to displace 600,000 barrels of heavy oil from other countries produced above the carbon intensity of an Alberta’s barrel. If completed indigenous groups will own an equity stake. The profts to oil companies allow them to target getting to net zero emissions and the profits to government are funding green technologies which need capital more than anything else. If we don’t capture this market share that money doing environmental good will instead be funding god knows what in Iran and Venezuela. I challenge you to argue that building the pipeline is less environmental than not, right away it’s a clear win and that’s before considering economic or geopolitical advantages. This arrangement is the most perfect implementation of policy I’ve ever seen in my life, it’s a win win win. So what’s the reaction of the group you say we should look to, to respect their views as the pure voice of children? The group Youth climate strikers was blocked by Catharine McKennas twitter today for telling her to STFU and blasting her for buying a pipeline. I’m sure we’ll probably hear Greta come out against the pipeline tomorrow in Montreal. They don’t see the whole issue, they don’t see the macro view, they think pipeline = bad, oil companies = bad. Simplistic, morally unambiguous, and ultimately damaging and counter productive. Childish.