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Originally Posted by peter12
Anyway, polling like that doesn't mean anything until a) the Dems get a candidate and b) there is a campaign.
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I agree, though that goes both ways... a "who would you vote for if they were nominated" poll requires a bunch of things, beginning with whether the respondent even knows who the democratic primary nominees even are. No one's going to respond "I'd vote for Tim Ryan", because 99.5% of people being asked that question don't know who Tim Ryan is.
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I'm giving Trump very good odds. He's not as dumb as people think, he's been Teflon to every mini or mega scandal, and the Democrats are really not a great political party.
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Which is why they need to stop trying to campaign on creating scandals for Trump. They don't work. Everyone who's going to be convinced that he's terrible already thinks he's terrible. You're not winning anyone new over with the 1000th story about Trump being terrible.
I mean, sure, continue to make sure those stories get out there, because "Trump is deporting children with cancer" is the sort of thing that energizes your base to vote to get rid of him. But "Trump is awful and we should strive to be better as a nation" can't be the centerpiece of the strategy. That will result in another loss.
Unfortunately, as we agree, the Democrats are pretty terrible at this, and many of them are basically treating the primaries as an audition for the role of "Who can attack Trump the hardest and best", as if the measure of the best nominee is who can generate the most "got 'im" cheers from an audience of die-hard supporters. So I feel like I have good reason for my pessimism.