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Originally Posted by you&me

It's entirely circumstantial, and I'd give it a pass at certain events, with certain crowds, but I would most definitely notice if someone wore Vans to a wedding or Christmas party.

Again, very circumstantial, but there are definitely occasions where I would likely think less of someone for doing so.

It's great that fashion doesn't rank on your personal GAF scale and I can see the appeal of living a life like that. However, in some situations, I feel a person's general level of GAF for their host, event or general company is reflected in their appearance and wardrobe choices.

You wouldn't (God, I hope you wouldn't) wear sweat pants on a first date, to a professional job interview, a formal wedding or a funeral. Those are occasions where, if any ####s are given in regard to the host and/or the occasion, you surely recognize the lack of respect for said host and occasion that would be conveyed by your choice in pants. Vans may not be as egregious as sweat pants, but a clear slight nonetheless. At least you have the good sense to make sure they're 'clean'...

I think that's what dressing "well" comes down to... It's not necessarily about "fashion" or trends, or expensive clothes; it's about showing people in your company, under the appropriate circumstances, that you respect them enough that you found it worthwhile to put some basic level of effort into your appearance, if not for your sake, than at least for their's.

I agree with pretty much all of this. I'm not trying to slob it up. I'm just having a chuckle about how serious some people are about the kinds of shorts they wear, and what matches with what. I know it's not you giving me hell for having an opinion, and I agree that there are times and places. I think my times and places are a little looser than most, and I thought that tossing that into the ring might be amusing or interesting. Did not intend to inflame mr. srsbsns torquedog. So damn sorry that I did not think about possibly hurting feelings when disagreeing with a thread. Clothes! Let's fight!