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Originally Posted by Textcritic
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I don't see that number being adopted. I see people agreeing, I see someone suggesting 41 games in a single season. I searched for this and see no set criteria established. Has this always been the criteria going back years? Did it change for this year?
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I don't believe you. You posted in the thread about the criteria, and complained about the criteria. You're just pissy because you didn't believe that Valimaki belonged on the list.
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It would be neat if the moderation team didn't try to explain away conflicting opinions as being pissy and instead focused on the actual opinions and arguments.
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I don't think anyone is suggesting that the Flames have a top-ten ranked prospect base, but there is certainly a legitimate complaint that the criteria artificially disadvantages their placement because of how closely so many of their players are to the line. There is a legitimate case to be made that the Flames's "farm system" is much healthier in fact than a 31st-place ranking would seem to indicate.
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So then make that argument, apply it to other teams and see what happens.
There were 30 rookies in the NHL who played between 20 and 30 games in the regular season last year. There are 17 rookies who played between 25 and 30 games last year. The Ducks had 3 guys play between 25 and 30 games as rookies.
Sure, for this exercise it maybe makes the flames look a bit worse than they are relative to other orgs because their two best prospects each played the exact cutoff of games, but this is also happening in other organizations.
Relative to everyone else, a year after finishing 28th in the league from the same guy and trading away Adam Fox, a 31st ranking is entirely plausible/believable/attributable and is a reflection upon not making enough draft picks in the preceding 3 year time frame as explained in his ranking.
Carve this post into stone tablets because it's the definitive post about why Calgary's prospect ranking is where it is:
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
And they have traded too many picks in the last 3 drafts as as well.
2017: No 2nd or 3rd
2018: No 1st, 2nd, or 3rd
2019: No 2nd
That's 6 pieces that would probably figure into the top 15 of a list like this.
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There were 40 guys who played between 25 and 41 games last year as rookies. Every team in the league is impacted by the 'arbitrary' cutoff.
Apply a 41 game standard and see for yourself how greatly it impacts the Flames vs other organizations. There are really good players there for every team in the league.
Again, yes, it sucks that two of the flames top prospects hit the 25 game mark exactly, but would the Sharks ranking not have benefited from Suomela and his 27 games? Ryan Graves in Colorado with his 26 games? Washington and Siegenthaler's 26 regular season games? Troy Terry and his 34 games with Anaheim?
It seems to me the problem for many posters in this thread is not that the Flames rank 31st, but that the Oilers rank 9th. Who freakin' cares?