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Jiri Hrdina · 08-14-2019, 06:58 PM

My take on all this
- The Flames have, for a couple of decades, been one of the weaker franchises when it comes to the overall asset base. This was a result of poor drafting (the Chucko/Pelech years), trading of picks, and just bad trades overall. This includes getting almost nothing out of the last core group. If you look at the net returns of Iginla, Regehr, Kipper and Bouwmeester - they didn't get anything out of what was once their core group. So that's always going to make things tough
- Flash's points about draft picks are valid. This team was trying to kick open their window of contention and pull it forward. And to some extent I understand that. My hypothesis is that the organization knows that Johnny isn't going to re-sign and as such they view every year wasted with him as a wasted opportunity. They are trying to maximize their chances with him part of the team.
- You can debate whether or not deals such as the Hamonic one were the right long-term moves, but that's the strategy they took. So for me it is less about questioning that strategy but moreso evaluating how they have executed that strategy
- The team has made some real strides in drafting that is helping to compensate for the lack of picks. But at some point you pay the price for that approach - and we are probably going to see that over the next few years

Again for me this isn't so much a recent thing but rather an organization that dwindled it's asset base down to that of an expansion franchise - and as such is constantly robbing Peter to pay Paul.

But when it comes to this article, it would APPEAR (I say that because I haven't read it) to be not a great piece of work based on the exclusion of several prospects that i think one can fairly say haven't graduated.

But if this piece was written next summer - I would assume that the Flames would certainly be near the bottom of the list, if not at the very bottom.

08-14-2019, 06:58 PM	#68
Jiri Hrdina Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2014 Exp:	My take on all this - The Flames have, for a couple of decades, been one of the weaker franchises when it comes to the overall asset base. This was a result of poor drafting (the Chucko/Pelech years), trading of picks, and just bad trades overall. This includes getting almost nothing out of the last core group. If you look at the net returns of Iginla, Regehr, Kipper and Bouwmeester - they didn't get anything out of what was once their core group. So that's always going to make things tough - Flash's points about draft picks are valid. This team was trying to kick open their window of contention and pull it forward. And to some extent I understand that. My hypothesis is that the organization knows that Johnny isn't going to re-sign and as such they view every year wasted with him as a wasted opportunity. They are trying to maximize their chances with him part of the team. - You can debate whether or not deals such as the Hamonic one were the right long-term moves, but that's the strategy they took. So for me it is less about questioning that strategy but moreso evaluating how they have executed that strategy - The team has made some real strides in drafting that is helping to compensate for the lack of picks. But at some point you pay the price for that approach - and we are probably going to see that over the next few years Again for me this isn't so much a recent thing but rather an organization that dwindled it's asset base down to that of an expansion franchise - and as such is constantly robbing Peter to pay Paul. But when it comes to this article, it would APPEAR (I say that because I haven't read it) to be not a great piece of work based on the exclusion of several prospects that i think one can fairly say haven't graduated. But if this piece was written next summer - I would assume that the Flames would certainly be near the bottom of the list, if not at the very bottom.