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Old 08-12-2019, 10:24 PM   #151
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Originally Posted by TheSutterDynasty View Post
You and I have debated risk before in regards to exercising in smoke and I still don't particularly understand your perspective.

Are you suggesting that smoking, which provides zero benefit to society, when used PROPERLY literally kills you, and costs taxpayers tens and tens of million dollars (edit: WOW did I underestimate this, one study estimated it to be $6.5 BILLION each year in Canada) every year is less of an issue than a couple bruised knees from using an escooter the first time and likely improperly? Not to mention the net benefit we get from something like it - less traffic, convenience, better for the environment. If scooters are "very risky", where does that put smoking?

Car accidents are the ninth leading cause of death world wide. Where are scooters on that list?
Your muff on exercising in smoke is that the study you looked at focused on people living in pollution permanently...like in Mumbai...If you live in pollution anyway, you might as well exercise because it could still provide you some benefit even though the pollution is going to kill you way sooner either way. Taking that info and saying it's a good idea to go run in the forest fire smoke is kind of bad logic. Like I think you were pretty sure it gave you super powers at one point.



Your mention of the cigarette industry as an example of something we allow even though it's patently dangerous struck me as odd because the reason it exists is the billions of dollars it has provided lobbying groups and thus political groups throughout the years. That's what it would take to get something so dangerous in our lives again. Not really a good comparison to escooters.


When comparing escooters to automobile related injuries, you'd want to create an equal comparison. You might find out that maybe like 250k people go to the hospital every year in Canada because of car accidents. That sounds like way more than scooters. But maybe there are like 20 million people taking 100 million trips a year in a car. So it's not actually that much compared to the relatively few scooter users.



It's like the bike comparison. People thought that bikes were way more dangerous because more people went to the hospital with bike injuries. Turns out scooters are more dangerous when you compare the numbers properly.



The benefit of scooters is an interesting point. They might take a bit of traffic off the street but not much. I also think it takes some walkers off the street which is not beneficial health wise. And I doubt you'd ever make up the environmental costs of actually making an escooter battery.
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