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Originally Posted by Flaming Homer
After reading the laws it does make sense (it hurts to use that word here though) to make those changes. Considering they aren’t going to outright ban guns and obviously favour the whole “counter a psycho shooter with a legal carry shooter” idea. It would potentially save lives for teachers to be able to store their guns in their cars rather then leave them at home etc.
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This is a horrible idea. The last thing you want is giving someone with a gun in their car having the ability to get involved an active shooter engagement.
The proper response to an active shooter is RUN, HIDE, FIGHT. RUN away from the commotion do your best to get off and away from campus as quickly as possible. If you are caught in a situation where you can't run, HIDE in as secure location as you can. Get into a classroom with a lock on the door, turn out the lights, and dog pile with your friends in a corner as far from the door as you can. Stay silent!!! If the shooter tries to come into your room, prepare to FIGHT and everyone rush the shooter in mass. Someone may take a round. Someone may die. But the collective action will save lives.
I stress that the last thing in the world that you should do is go to your car and retrieve a weapon to "go hunting." You are not a first responder. You are not prepared to engage a shooter or know what the response plan is. You become a secondary target in the response plan and become noise for the responders. SWAT will be involved and they do not discriminate between friend or foe with a gun. They see gun in the hands of someone not in uniform, they see a foe. You become a target and one first responders are trained to put down with extreme prejudice. Do not become a target. Get off campus and stay off campus.
Any law that encourages weapons to be on campus is a bad law and will only make these scenarios worse instead of better. The best law is one that gets guns out of the hands of people and keeps them out of the hands of people with bad intentions.
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
You really think your neighbours will turn into a bloodthirsty militia that will lead to complete societal collapse?
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This comment really got me thinking, especially on my way into work this morning as I scanned the traffic on the freeway and observed bumper and window stickers. Do I really think that my "neighbors" will turn into a bloodthirsty militia that will lead to societal collapse. No, not MY neighbors, but there are elements in my county and in my state that have that potential, and they advertise it on their clothes and vehicles. Whether it be the Molon Labe/Aabe set, the III percenters, the Oathkeepers, Arizona Border Recon, or the Patriot Movement, there is an element that preparing for an opportunity to go nuts.
Don't discount the power of a small group to get major social unrest started. It was a very small percent of the colonists who got the revolutionary war started, and where the term three-percenter comes from. The fanatics are the ones that concern me, and Trump has enabled these fanatics to become much more visible and attract the like minded. Do I fear for this happening? No, not really. But I also don't routinely think about having to evacuate in the event of chemical spill, nuclear accident, or severe weather event either. That doesn't mean I don't have a plan and train on what to do in the event of any of these events. Better to be prepared than left wanting.
A reason to be prepared for nutbararay.
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