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Originally Posted by keenan87
Quite frankly, I dont hate Treliving but feel that people on here overrate him substantially. I think if Treliving was the GM of the Oilers, right now we would have a bunch of posts in the "no good tread" talking about his atrocious signings.
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Of course we would. But not because Treliving is actually terrible at his job. Most of the stuff in the E=NG thread is so over the top that it is obvious satire and humour. It is often difficult to distinguish the difference between hilarity and reality because Edmonton is in fact THAT bad, so deploying the old "if it was the Oilers" trope as some sort of defense for the legitimacy of your opinion is completely moot.
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He came in and started off well. However, i personally think that he is grasping at straws right now to try and get out of this cap situation (waited too long to make the necessary moves). This is usually when most GMs make some really dumb moves when their back is up against the wall and I would be more comfortable bringing in someone else than a Sutter situation all over again when he left with some horrendous deals.
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The team finished the year in second place and has improved at a fairly steady pace since Treliving started his job. He certainly has made mistakes, but I can't fathom how the overall picture of the team today can make someone so uncomfortable as to hope for that sort of drastic change.
Treliving strikes me as anything but desperate: a desperate move would have been trading Neal and an unprotected first-round pick or a blue-chip prospect in an attempt to solve a problem. Swapping Neal for Lucic plus a bit of salary relief feels much more like a sensible way to help mitigate the problem. At the end of the day the Flames will still be a highly competitive team next year, and the Oilers will struggle to get close to the playoffs. I don't see the seriousness of the problem here.
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Every GM has a shelf life imo. It is important to realize that before it is too late. I am just suggesting that people give him way too much crediit when really this cap situation is because of his own decisions (some really bad ones)
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But you are at least as deeply entrenched on the other side of this. It's one thing to be critical of the GM who has built a top team; it is quite another to pontificate for his dismissal. You are the exact reciprocation of those posters about whom you complain: yes, some people are guilty of giving Treliving too much credit, but then you are in the mix of those who dramatically over exaggerate his faults.