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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Not really. Elliott, Smith, Stone, Lazar, Hamonic are bad trades. Hamilton arguably.
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I think the only "bad" trades are Lazar and Hamonic.
Elliott for 2016 2nd (Kyrou): Kyrou looks promising so that hurts but Elliott did lead a team to the playoffs before just collapsing. "bad" is probably a little harsh for sure. Worth a shot since Elliott was a proven starter at that point.
Smith for Hickey (Wasn't going to sign), Johnson (meh), 3rd: Really the 3rd was the only real piece of value here, and that's not a huge loss.
Stone for 3rd + 5th: The trade value was fine for a rental...extending to a 3 year deal here was probably the mistake.
Lazar, Kostka for Jokipakka, 2017 2nd (Formenton): Lazar was never worth a second and was a bad trade from the time it happened.
Hamonic for 1st (Dobson), 2nd (Iskhakov), 2nd (Bolduc): Dobson looks like a blue chipper and that being an early first is what makes this trade bad. Iskhakov is okay but actually outperformed by Pettersen in NCAA year 1, Bolduc looks like he's okay but nothing special. Losing that Dobson pick hurts.
I think the Hamilton trade actually in the end probably ends up positive.
In the end that works out to Ferland, 1st (Senyshyn), 2nd (Forsbacka-Karlsson), 2nd (Lauzon), Fox (3rd - Not signing) for Hanifin and Lindholm...which is still a good trade.
Only reason that looks bad was Barzal dropping in that draft and getting selected after Senyshyn...however Hanifin himself was 5th overall in that draft. Plus Flames still got Kylington and Andersson in that draft in the 2nd anyways who are better than the guys they gave up.
So yeah I think the two "bad" trades are Lazar and Hamonic, with Elliott also being "meh"
Lazar, Hamonic, Elliott for 1st (Dobson), 2nd (Kyrou), 2nd (Formenton), 2nd (Iskhakov), 2nd (Bolduc)...yeah that's not great as a whole.
Adding Dobson, Kyrou, and Formenton to this roster in the next two years would look nice for sure.