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Old 07-23-2019, 09:15 AM   #2297
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken View Post
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Not really. Elliott, Smith, Stone, Lazar, Hamonic are bad trades. Hamilton arguably.

probably true

Stone was a bad UFA signing as well. Considering they are all buyout candidates, I would say probably worse than 'bad' as well. 'Really bad' maybe? 'Awful'? 'Franchise crippling'? I don't know if i'd go that far but maybe.

'Warts' is an interesting way of putting it.
You think warts are good? That's the only way I'd find it interesting.

Otherwise we're both agreeing it's been an issue, and a place of concern. I even got into how they missed the mark on Brouwer and Neal's underlying numbers and lack of speed at their age.

Stone is what he is. At 3.5M in today's NHL that's not a crippling signing, it's a guy over paid by about a million bucks as an insurance policy. Ryan was great. Engelland was value. The first year of Hiller was fine. Frolik has been good. Raymond was a face plant at the time they were trying to get to the floor.

Every team has one of these guys for the most part ... or have wiggled out of one recently.
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