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Old 07-03-2019, 03:03 PM   #751
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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen View Post
I think it comes down to training, orders he received, and explicit expectations of him as an officer.

As asinine as I will sound, if you are trained to do something and expected to do it under certain circumstances but don't, you are failing to do your job. That's just a universal requirement for every single job there is really.

With this one being a life-or-death situation it's certainly not the same as me forgetting to put the new coversheets on my TPS reports but if the Las Vegas department has procedures and training in place for situations like this and he failed to do it, that is an unfortunate problem that really should give them grounds for dismally. You need to have your officers behaving predictably especially in these situations with such chaos. Following their training, meeting expectations, responding to orders. So if he was trained to do it one way, like say to go in quickly to confront the shooter to prevent further casualties and putting himself at risk, that's really an expectation of him (and not to say that Vegas police shouldn't re-evaluate their training and procedures). Conversely, if he wasn't trained in a situation like this, then that's on the department.

I don't blame him at all, but if you're freezing up during high-pressured situations you shouldn't be put in a role where you will deal with high-pressured situations - like being an officer.
Agreed. High pressure jobs like that are for certain types of people and it's likely he wasn't that type, which is a failure on the department for hiring him. Heck, maybe the hiring manager needs to be fired also for making the wrong hiring choice, since clearly they are the ones who ultimately decide who is a good fit. In that regard, I feel the dismissal isn't out of line. But I also feel like he's being used as a sacrificial lamb, in a city desperate for answers. Now some people will learn of his dismissal and automatically think some of those lives lost are on him because he didn't do his job. That's not fair or necessarily true.

Hard to say how any of us would react when the sounds of automatic gunfire is going off meters away from us, regardless of what training we have.
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