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Old 05-20-2019, 01:17 PM   #186
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Originally Posted by GirlySports View Post
What if the science says something like Week X is 15.
Neither side is happy.
As unlikely as that is, I would agree with that. Science is the answer here. I think in reality that the number is around 26 weeks, and there should be plenty of statistical data through premature births to support the claim. Whatever science lands on should be a satisfactory outcome IMO.

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The pro-life group is never happy because they want no abortions period.
The pro-choice group will not be happy because a women should get to choose, period.
I agree with the pro-life camp never being happy. They have never been about compromise which is in total alignment with their dogmatic perspective. I think the pro-choice camp has been more than willing to hold fast to a standard determined and codified into law - so long as the choice is reasonable. Six weeks is not reasonable based on a woman's cycle, which is why there is push back. It is obviously an attempt to wrestle control from the individual and give it to the moral minority control. 24-26 weeks seems reasonable and workable for both parties, if they would be open to compromise.

Frankly, this a 60-40 split thing. Almost 60% say it should be legal, and only 37% say it should be illegal. You'll never guess which political group is in the minority? You'll never guess which religious group is the one who holds the heavy majority on the illegality of the issue? It always boils down to the same political and religious identification groups. Here are the stats from the latest Pew Research Poll (linked above).

Politically, 59% of Republicans think abortion should be illegal, with 37% saying it should be allowed. Democrats are 76% in support of legal abortion and only 21% against. Only the hardcore conservative Republicans hold a view that abortion should be illegal. Even moderate Republicans are in favor of abortion being legal, 58-37 split.

Religiosity is the kicker here. 61% of evangelicals say abortion should be illegal, with 34% in favor. This is the only group that has a majority in favor of outlawing abortion. Catholics hold a 51-42 split in favor of abortion being legal. White protestants hold a 67-28 split in favor of legalization. Unaffiliated people hold a 74-21 split in favor of abortion rights.

From a gender perspective, the split is similar with there being 60-36 split in favor of abortion amongst women, and a 57-37 split amongst men.

If there is a group that is easiest to tap into for the anti-abortion group, it is the uneducated, where those with a high school diploma or less level of education sees almost a dead heat - 48-47 in favor of abortion. Once you get some college education under your belt, those numbers plummet. Those with some college education favor a 60-35 split, and those who are college graduates see a 71-25 split in favor of abortion.

This is an issue driven by the vocal minority. All the survey data supports that. Even globally.

What should be very concerning, is that when abortion is legal, abortion rates decline, not rise. So if you want to see more abortions, the solution is to make it illegal!
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