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Old 05-18-2019, 10:04 AM   #121
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Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout View Post
Given the remarks out of Ontario, I wouldn't be surprised to see the issue on the table soon.

I wouldn't he surprised if Ford introduces bills about or drastically cuts funding for abortion services.
I haven't been paying close attention to Ontario's provincial politics. However, I suppose if anyone is dumb enough to attempt this, it'd probably be Ford. I certainly hope you're wrong, because you're quite right that that might have cascading effects. That would be terrible. If Kenney so much as suggests doing something similar I'll end up having to go to... eugh... Edmonton.

That said, I think at least that Scheer has been pretty unequivocal. Restricting access by limiting services related to abortion is "reopening the debate" in a way that does nothing but horrible things for the Conservatives' election prospects federally and provincially. This is the most conservative province in the country - do you think it would have helped or hurt Kenney to take a public stance on limiting access to abortion during the last election? I don't think there's much doubt that it would have hurt. A lot. And consequently, I would hope that conservative politicians are savvy enough to avoid helping out their opponents like that. But we'll see.

In any case, if by some cascading demonstration of humanity's capacity for stupidity this debate does end up back on the table, I get the feeling anyone with a nuanced and thoughtful perspective is going to be routinely embarrassed by other pro-choice advocates to a point where It'll be tempting to just say "#### it, you're on your own, best of luck".
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Funny enough I think the pro-life arguments made in this thread are a lot more reasonable and interesting to read than the 'if you don't want to get an abortion than don't' stupidity.
Well, because that's not a moral argument. It's a bumper sticker. It doesn't even make any sense. It's been so long since anyone pro-choice actually had to make a principled case for their views that most people take it as read that they're right and no more thought need be put into the matter.

The one thing I object to most on this topic is the level of certainty that so many people bring to it. There's none to be had, and there never has been, so stop acting like your view is so obviously the correct one.

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