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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Can you stop avoiding just giving us the raw numbers for the rest of the group for goals for, primary assists etc etc.
You're the most consistently stat oriented guy on this board and I am trying to talk stats with you and you're calling me lame or saying i don't believe in gravity because I keep asking you for data you seemingly have at your fingertips, and you won't supply it.
It's a really simple premise:
If bennett scores 1.00 goals per 60 and hathaway scores .98 goals per 60 i'm going to tell you that Hathaway is a better goal scorer because he didn't get 20 games with the second best offensive player in the lineup to pad those stats.
If Bennett gets 20 games with backlund and tkachuk and is only marginally more productive than guys that play 10 minutes a night exclusively with other guys who struggle to produce then Bennett's 'ranking' doesn't mean anything.
That you're fixated on 'ranking' tells me you already know this and are reticent to share that data.
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It tells you nothing.
This is an odd conversation. I've literally brought data in every which direction and mostly by request and you have to have the answers in your format or I'm hiding something?
That's very bizarre.
A ranking of stats is the stats ... ranked. So if Bennett is ranked higher than Hathaway on most of the lists ... he's ranked higher than Hathaway.
If you're giving someone the rankings it is the stats.
There is nothing to hide when a player out ranks most of the guys on the list that requested.
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Player TOI Goals/60 First Assists/60 Shots/60 ixG/60 iCF/60 iSCF/60 iHDCF/60
Michael Frolik 813 0.89 0.66 9.3 0.69 15.36 9.01 3.32
Mark Jankowski 809 0.59 0.59 5.93 0.6 12.53 7.86 2.89
Sam Bennett 804 0.67 0.75 7.31 0.78 12.98 9.18 4.63
Derek Ryan 793 0.76 0.61 6.05 0.55 10.07 6.05 3.25
James Neal 785 0.38 0.46 8.26 0.61 14.38 7.88 2.68
G Hathaway 649 0.83 0.18 6.1 0.62 11.18 7.3 3.42
Austin Czarnik 526 0.57 0.57 5.48 0.63 10.84 7.76 2.62
A Mangiapane 435 1.1 0.41 8.42 0.78 12.7 8.97 4.42
Dillon Dube 232 0.26 0 4.66 0.62 9.07 5.18 3.63