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Old 05-08-2019, 12:18 PM   #13826
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Originally Posted by theslymonkey View Post
It's not that they are untradable, it's that they replacement cost would destroy the team's cap structure. Sure if you can get a replacement player to play 1C at a number that fits under the cap, then go for it. But why would another GM let that player leave?
Several reasons. A team may give up waiting for potential to be realized and trade a young centre who has #1 upside because he’s disappointed. Why did CAR trade a 1st line W/C in Lindholm last summer? Because the owner was being cheap and Lindholm hadn’t broken out yet. Another reason is changing depth in one area for another. CBJ traded a young 30 goal scoring centre and NSH traded a young potential franchise defenseman in Seth Jones. Those are the types of players you say GMs never let go but actually they do sometimes.

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The Flames have two assets in Johnny and Mony that are worth way more than market value. The only way to really get a return on those assets is in a rebuild
Both those statements are 100% untrue in my opinion. Market value is what a player is worth so they can’t be worth more than it. The second statement is just clearly untrue IMO

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So to say that they are untradable, that's not it. They are definitely tradable. I just don't see a scenario where the Flames improve as a team without them under their cap, given that they are a cap team. Trading Johnny and Mony is more a math issue than a hockey issue in my opinion.
Same was said of Hamilton last summer. Can’t trade him, contract too good, too valuable, you can never win a deal with Dougie Hamilton in it. Can’t improve the Flames by trading Hamilton. People told me these same things last off-season when we started to talk about Hamilton and his warts.

How that logic looking a year later?
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