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Originally Posted by AltaGuy
Maybe it’s a rule of two thing. Perhaps Palpatine was severely crippled but survived the death star. And we learn Snoke was his dopey apprentice, and then Palpatine arranged/manipulated Ren to do his dirty work because Snoke was dangerous to a crippled Palpatine.
I could see Palpatine still pulling the strings as a very crippled, basically bodiless angry dark side pile of mush. Snoke could be one of his henchmen who went down on the deathstar with him - hence the scarring - who Palpatine basically used as his body and protection since he’s just a pile of goo.
Ren learns he’s been used by the playdough Palpatine, and seeks him out for training, which Palpatine is wary of, as he’s very vulnerable to anybody able to stomp him like gum on a sidewalk, but trains Ren in exchange for safety.
Meanwhile, Rey is also being trained up, and will learn that - yes - she is a skywalker, and she’ll convince Ren to forego great power and end the gooey-one’s existence finally.
Them’s my completely unfounded predictions.
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The rule of two is interesting to me, it was the way that the Sith got around sharing power and going to war with each other like they did in the Old Republic.
Two there are no more and no less, one to embody power and one to crave it.
The way to become a True Lord of the Sith is to learn at the feet of your master to the point where you surpass him, then you kill him take the mantle and find an apprentice.
At the end of ROTJ when Vader killed Palpatine and then died, it effectively ended the Banite Sith line, and all of that knowledge that had been gathered over thousands of years was lost.
To add on the concept of bringing balance to the Force is a prophesy that could have been mis-interpreted. I mean the logical thing is that bringing the force into balance would mean equal parts of dark and light. But in the end the Sith were dead. The Skywalkers remained, thus the Force was out of balance and would react by bringing in darkness.
However just because Snoke was a Dark side user that doesn't mean that he was a Sith, nor was Ren, there was never an indication that they followed the Sith philosophy. Though if they did, then in theory when Ren killed Snoke he would have ascended to the mantle of Dark Lord of the Sith.
If you go back and watch Clone Wars, in the episode where Sidious confronted Maul and his brother, he plainly told Maul that he had been replaced as an Apprentice and basically cast out and enslaved.
I don't know if I buy that Palpatine survived, I could honestly be wrong, but I would think that there would have to be some pretty interesting Lore gymnastics to make it happen. Plus it would realistically make Ren a slave again after breaking his chains by killing Snoke.
I'm just pumped if they're bringing back Ian McDarmid who is awesome frankly. But whether he's alive and resurgent after ramming face first into a huge reactor, of he's a phantom which I don't think would make sense, or a flashback or holocron, I'm glad to have him involved.
Oh and on the Force Ghost thing. There's always been an argument that dark side users can't become a Force Ghost like a light side user because a big part of becoming a Force Ghost is about not only sacrifice but letting go of your life. A Sith is absolutely terrified of Death because it represents a loss of power, and Sith don't sacrifice, they sacrifice others.