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Originally Posted by Psytic
Yes and I dont doubt he surrounded himself with children and lived vicariously through them to recoup the childhood he never had but I'm not getting the feeling conclusively he treated them any more than like his own children which MJ then had and raised at the ranch. None of his children came forward with any allegations or stories of misbehavior in the household while they grew up at the ranch either.
The insinuation was MJ replaced the two of them with Barnes and Culkin and both are on record saying he never did anything sexual to them either. These two in the doc also denied any issues until their careers hit the skids.....I feel like MJ just wanted to have kids of his own and so eventually thats what he did... Coincidentally these two have had their careers hit the toilet and as mentioned they wanted to direct MJ's Cirque show as adults in 2011 and were denied, why run back to MJ years later? In 2012, Robson had a nervous breakdown, triggered, he said, by an obsessive quest for success. His career, in his own words, began to “crumble.” That same year, with Robson’s career, finances, and marriage in peril, he began shopping a book that claimed he was sexually abused by Michael Jackson. No publisher picked it up.Then moved on to this. It just seems a little strange like they hit the skids and started looking for ways tomake money after being denied access to MJs inner circle/lucrative work not only as children but as adults. Why didnt they interview Barnes or Culkin or Feldman? Why is Barnes defending MJ and sueing these two for portraying him as being sexually assaulted by MJ after replacing them as MJs new "fav." What about Sky Ferreiria? When Pressed further on the dynamics of her relationship with Jackson when she was a child, Ferreira disclosed that she visited Jackson’s houses, including his Neverland Ranch, “a lot” – but she didn’t witness any of the alleged abuse which was recently detailed in the controversial documentary Leaving Neverland “It wasn’t just because I was a girl,” she said. “I was around a lot of kids.”
"Aaron Carter appeared during their live show on Monday to speak out about Leaving Neverland and his own experience with Michael Jackson.
Aaron was very upset with allegations from the documentary and revealed that he had an amazing time with Jackson.Carter says that he spent a lot of time with Micheal Jackson and that nothing inappropriate ever happened, even revealing that like so many other young boys, he had spent nights in Jackson’s bedroom."
Why is it only the financially unstable ones that seem to have been assaulted? No testimony from his ex wives or gfs or his 3 kids,there were hundreds of kids at the ranch, but he some how only got these two alone consistently and only did things to them. Why did the FBI investigations and two unannounced raids on Neverland not make it in the documentary? Is it because they came up with no evidence outside of the fact he had a porn collection and the kids might have got into it? I just would have liked a balanced approach so I could make an educated decision. Im still on the fence. It wasnt very well done in my opinion and clearly had an agenda.
You want a good documentary (not MJ related) watch Wild Country. Both sides are equally portrayed so you can actually make an educated decision on the facts.represented.
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I honestly understand why this stuff doesn't make sense to someone who hasn't really experienced anything like it, but I'm going to use my own life to explain.
I'm going to try make this short, because I don't feel like going into details, for obvious reasons. Obviously a massive amount of information is left out, I'm trying to keep it relevant. (I will also simplify a lifetime of stuff.)
I had #### parents, in a way that will leave a person seriously emotionally scarred and mentally unstable. Out of three siblings, I'm the one that got by far the worst of my parents.
I have also often been in need of financial aid, because I've been such a mess that for example studying was (and is) just impossible for me, which has lead to constant trouble finding a steady job that pays a living wage. (Multiple mental health issues also aren't exactly valued in the job market.)
When I was in need of money, my parents would provide that. (To some extent. That too was pretty messed up at times, because they used it as leverage, often in quite toxic and unhelpful ways.) I would accept their help because I felt it was only right they helped pay for the mess they created. But I also emotionally felt constantly in debt to them.
Much of my adult life I didn't even think about it that much. That just was my life, my normal. I was a mess that "would never get better", and there was some grim satisfaction in sort of constantly rubbing my problems in their faces, instead of keeping my distance to them like my siblings did.
It was only after I had enough financial independence that I was able to talk honestly about my history and my relationship to my parents with others, without always making excuses for them. Basically I had to stop feeling like I need them to think clearly. While I had been on some level aware that much of my problems go back to my upbringing, I thought that was the past I could do nothing about. I hadn't even realized how I had prolonged my problems by "living off" people who had poisoned my life and kept doing it when given the chance, and hadn't really noticed how much I had actually excused and flat out lied about them to make myself feel better about being dependent on them.
Because I wasn't technically abused and my parents aren't famous, I didn't sue them or try to write a book, I just completely cut them out of my life.
So, I absolutely understand why someone would keep living off their abuser, and only start re-evaluating their relationship to said abuser from a genuinely adult perspective once that dependence is cut.
By my experience, that's exactly how people behave.
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I don't really expect you to get it. This is just stuff you that can't really be explained, because much of it has to do with the way abusive experiences distorts what is "rational" and "normal" behavior and thinking.
You kind of just have to accept that it makes sense to them, even if it doesn't make sense to you.