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Well, the thing is someone who carrys a weapon legally isn't affecting anyones safety.
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Speculative, but this was not what I said. I specifically said that the presence of concealed handguns is an infringement upon
my right to feel safe in public. If I have no idea where the immanent danger is, my right to safety is erased, and my need to carry a concealed weapon escalates through a perception that mortal danger exists where it once did not.
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They are only authorized to use that weapon in a life or death situation.
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Who determines what constitutes a "life or death situation"?
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If someone is going to pull out their concealed weapon and just start shooting random people, I don't think thats the carry law. As stated before, people who do those sorts of things are going to do them one way or another.
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Ironically, these are not the people I am afraid of. I am more afraid of being shot accidently, caught in a firefight, a ricochet, or in any one of the hundreds of scenarios through which the very presence of a concealed handgun in a public place can cause collateral harm.
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In britain, as I showed earlier, it is very difficult to get a gun. Much harder than canada. Semi automatic guns are not allowed. Pistols are non existant. Yet crime is sky high. If someone doesn't have a gun, their just going to use the next best thing. If someone is going to kill another person, their going to do it whether they have a gun knife bat or anything else.
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I never suggested that tough gunlaws reduce crime, but "crime" is a pretty broad designation for a wide spectrum of offenses ranging from petty theft to mass murder. I would argue that the presence of concealed handguns
will certainly increase death. This is sufficient enough of a reason for my vociferous opposition.
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I personally believe it is the right of every sane individual to be allowed to possess weapons in their own home.
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What constitutes "sane"? What were the results of your last psychoanalytic evaluation?
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It is the responsibility of each individual to appropriatley defend themselves if they have to.
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Who determines what constitutes an "appropriate" measure of defense? As someone who has never once felt the need to defend himself with a handgun (you should know that I have travelled widely through the US, the UK, and have spent time in Israel, which is one damn, scary place), I feel that I can adequately defend myself from harm without the need of a handgun. Furthermore, I feel that in the absence of concealed weapons, I am in significantly less danger. I feel much safer in the UK and in Canada than in the US; why would that be, do you suppose?
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Sometimes, people can't wait 7 minutes for the police to show up. If people took it upon themselves to educate themselves and use that knowledge, then maybe crime would decrease.
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Too often, someone is accidently killed by a handgun. Furthermore, I would argue that if public venues were suddenly littered with concealed weapons,
death would increase.
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I think this is a matter of general freedoms. I served in the military, I have never been arrested, and I have no reason for anyone to suspect anything bad about me. So why should a perfectly law abiding citizen like myself be told what I can and cannot purchase.
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But this is not the issue. You can buy whatever the hell you want for all I care. What I have a problem with is you concealing a weapon in a public place that could kill me at a distance of more than 100 feet. I am not opposed to gun ownership, but this is fundamentally different that the right to conceal a lethal weapon.
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I realize there are safety issues with guns, but ther real issue here is illegal guns.
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Then how does you right to conceal a weapon help to solve the problem of "illegal guns"? How, exactly, will your right to conceal a weapon aide in reducing crime committed with "illegal handguns"?