[DiracSpike]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

To be fair, the manner in which Klein achieved "paid in full" didn't exactly set things up for success. You can save a lot of money by never doing oil changes, or replacing your car tires, painting your house, replacing appliances when they break down, eating nothing but ramen at every single meal, etc. - but it comes back to bite you in the ass when you get whatever disease is associated with eating such a terrible diet and your car breaks down on the way to the airport for your flight to the States for a treatment that you're paying for by selling your house for less than it should be worse due to shoddy maintenance because the treatment isn't offered at home because our healthcare system was gutted.





I'm sure all of you same people were similarly outraged every other time this has been done, which is incidentally before every single election in the history of democracy...

It is certainly not commendable behaviour, but neither is ignoring common sense in your outrage.



Out of curiosity, has Kenney offered any ideas for how he would have prevented this?



You know the old joke about how if you're a guy who thinks every single person they meet is an A-hole, that you're actually the A-hole?

BC, Quebec, Minnesota, Ontario, Trudeau, Trump, Notley, Europe, China, OPEC, TIDES, Suzuki, Obama, Saudis, etc.



Albertans are every bit as tiresome as those who we love to lament (especially from BC and Quebec), and perhaps even less self-aware.

For the record, I align more closely with you rambling masses on most issues than with the various 'boogeymen' I listed above. But you people make me question that more and more every day.

Your position seems to be borne more out of disdain for "Albertans" than anything else. That's the only conclusion I can take from someone saying a group that wants to sell its resource for fair market value is less self aware than two provinces who use a heckuva lot of oil but like to pretend that they don't. I have no other explanation. If you want to align yourself with groups that want to shut down the oil sands and move barrels of oil by rail at a greater cost to the environment and the economy then go right ahead. You'll have to hand in your smartest-guy-in-the-room card when you do though

Notley, to her credit, saved the Province from complete economic collapse by curtailing production but I wonder if maybe she should've let things play out to drive the point home to the head in the sand crew how desperate the situation is. You'd think selling the world cheapest crude by far would have lit the bulb for everyone but clearly not. The facts on the ground are that we are hemmed in and desperately need new space. And projects on hold for 6-10 years is not a steam rolling. You know what makes it really hard to fund the social programs and give government tax breaks to help diversify the economy? When you lose 10s of billions of dollars a year for no reason. Makes things kinda difficult. Let me humbly suggest to you to do some research on the history of these projects and Vivian Krauses work on how these obstructionist bad faith groups are being funded with the explicit goal of eroding value for all of us. If you still wanna be chill and wax poetic with your long rambling posts about the nature of money and FN potable water then have it. But don't expect the rest of us in tune with reality to be as relaxed about fire saling the worlds most valuable commodity when we actually care about funding schools hospitals and feeding our families.