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Old 02-22-2019, 08:52 AM   #11211
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According to Friedman any team signing Stone is looking at the 10.5 plus like Ottawa offered.
Plus it may need to be front loaded.
And you have to give up huge assets to acquire him in the first place.

This is UFA and trade deadline bidding wars combined. Bad combo.
If I am trading firsts and top prospects, I am getting someone good on a friendly contract with term.
Stone is good, but at 10M he is way overpaid. He is no Tavares.
If this is the reality then Lidholm is worth 4 Firsts and a top prospect or 2.


Flames may be better off looking for a smaller deal.

I can live with giving up a first and a Foo or Mangipabe, but not much more.
Agree 100%. I'd rather make a move like the Hamilton / Hamonic deals where you are getting cost controlled players then have to give up assets and UFA value to get a guy.

Posted the note below yesterday and when you add it all up I'm not sure Stone is worth it.

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Think the problem I have with Stone is that he's likely also going to command a $9.5M cap hit - which means you likely have to move other pieces too to free cap on top of what you give up for Stone.

I'm going to assume that moving Neal is not feasible, and that moving our Stone wouldn't be an option as playing with his brother will be used to entice Stone to sign.

Rumor is Sens want 3-4 pieces, and in order to fit Stone in long term it means likely that at least Brodie and Frolik are moving.

So big picture the trade is something like:

Stone
Assets from Brodie Trade

for

2019 First
Dube
Kylington
Czarnik

Brodie (Moved in separate deal at draft)
Frolik (Moved as a cap dump at the draft)

As much as I do like Stone I wonder if it's worth it due to A) The young pieces we'd have to move out and B) The way it would negatively impact our depth moving forward.

I'd almost rather just take a shot in the offseason if he goes UFA.
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