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Old 02-15-2019, 12:02 PM   #10166
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The question is, will acquiring Mark Stone cost the Flames one of Kylington, Valimaki or Andersson? Do you still make the deal if it does?

The best deals the Flames can offer I think are:

2019 1st Round pick
2020 1st Round pick (maybe make this conditional on Stanley Cup and if no then its a 2nd Round pick)
Dube/Petterson
Frolik (for cap reasons and so the Sens can flip him for a 2nd round pick next year)

or

2019 1st Round pick
2020 2nd Round pick
Kylington/Andersson
Frolik (for cap reasons and so the Sens can flip him for a 2nd round pick next year)

I think Valimaki is the one you keep no matter what. Both Kylington and Andersson are good but have some warts.

I think if the Flames had their way, they'd go with option 1 and put Petterson in the deal and keep Dube and the defensemen for depth this year. But even if the Sens insist on Dube, the Flames should still make that deal as they do have some forward prospect depth in Mangiapane, Phillips, Gawdin etc.

Can the Jets beat those packages? The firsts are the same, so it comes down to Vesalainen and/or Niku versus Dube and/or Kylington/Andersson


I really want to avoid moving one of those 3 young Dmen in the deal since I think we are looking to add to the blueline and not subtract from it and those 3 our clearly our 5-7 Dmen in the playoffs.

I could see it being a 3 team deal or a separate deal involving Frolik and those assets going to Ottawa in addition to our 1st and Dube. The simplest way to cover both sides off the rental/extend risk is the conditional pick.

Flames send: Frolik, 1st, Dube, 3rd (becomes 1st if they win cup/re-sign Stone). If Stone is a long term fit for the Flames then they pay a hefty price as 2 1st, roster player, top prospect is steep for a winger.
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