[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Stone is debatably better than Tkachuk and it is highly doubtful he will be better for the next 3 years.

We trade a 21 year old with team control for multiple UFA’s.

Shocking that a poster who posts a lot about squandering picks is willing to move our best player 21 or younger by several miles for older players.

This is about following through on the concept of not being afraid to trade away an asset of substantial value - the future for the now. That's exactly what this trade is. We immediately get better with depth at the areas where we are "weak" and only have to give up one asset to do so. Yes, its a big asset, but so was Brett Hull and that won us a cup.

Originally Posted by Vinny01

So you cringe at including Jankowski or Kylington in deals but you are all for trading recently turned 21 year old franchise cornerstone in Tkachuk for guys 27-28 years old? Because their contracts would be similar?

Stone and Dzingel are both 26. Both are in their primes. Both are top three in scoring for their team. In a league where depth rules supreme, we get two top six forwards for one. That is a win for any team trying to win a championship.

At worst Tkachuk gets as much money as Stone on the next contract but remember he is 5.5 years younger. When I bring up picks I talk about the long term contention of the team. Trading a guy who is just entering his prime for a guy who is closer to exiting his shortens the window.

What??? You're not talking about long term health and contention of the team. You've only talked about the immediate success of the team. Otherwise you wouldn't trading away every single pick the Flames have, and every young cost controlled player we have that is worth a crap. That's fine, I get it. But don't complain then complain when someone suggests an actual trade that might have the potential to come fruition. You aren't getting the top end talents you need to take a run at the cup by giving up minor assets. You get those by using an asset you don't want to give up.

We know the deal would never happen but it is beyond laughable that you think the Sens want more. I sincerely appreciate the good laugh like you have to be trolling right?

I think you don't appreciate the quality of the assets being given up, and are over rating the player we are giving up. Tkachuk is a great asset, but you're getting back a great asset, and two really good secondary assets in return. You are improving the team by 15-20 goals, and 25-40 points in scoring. You are getting some depth on defense we are missing.

The other prices help? Dzingel sure he would be nice but is also a pending UFA so would likely be gone in the summer or require a Frolik like contract to keep. We would get him and a Dman that doesn’t crack our top 6 when healthy.

Sure, and Mike Stone doesn't crack our lineup either. Fact of the matter is Treliving is looking for another player that provides depth on the blueline. This trade accomplishes it.

What makes this an incredibly good deal is the Flames improve that second line while maintaining the integrity of the rest of the lineup, and then also don't sell the rest of the future down the road, allowing them to continue bringing in good young players to keep the cap in check, and keep the team competitive.

Great trade sign me up.

Glad you're finally coming around and seeing the value in the deal. This ain't rocket science.

BTW, I think the Sens don't even consider this deal. I don't think there is enough there to satisfy them. I think it takes more.