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Old 02-02-2019, 02:06 PM   #34
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I honestly don’t see how there’s a difference. That’s like saying you win when you play well but you play well when you win.

Some teams won despite having some iffy numbers. Often they slide later (I had buffalo and Anaheim not long for the tip back in November)

Other teams have numbers that suggest its sustainable.



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I at one time did not believe that playing for possession stats was a thing.

Here is an example where playing for possession stats is no good.

https://www.coppernblue.com/2015/2/1...ith-tsn-hockey

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"Here’s the thing with analytics, with media and with fans I don’t understand. There’s such a divide. You’re either for analytics or you’re against them. Analytics to me are no more than stats. If you’re for goals and assists and points, then why wouldn’t you be looking at these other stats too. I was a big fan of Tyler’s and I pushed hard for the hire. I like going in-depth and checking everything off. If you’re going to stand back and say "It takes 95 points to make the playoffs," can’t you say that "Hey if you get a Corsi of 50 per cent, 70 per cent of those teams make the playoffs? Or if you get a team Corsi of 52.5 per cent, hey, 90 per cent of those teams makes the playoffs. The problem with just looking at going "Hey get 95 points and you’re in, it’s hard to go back and measure "What do you need?" When you get into the team Corsi, and this is where things worked really well with Tyler, is you’re actually able to go in and check off every part of your system work. Compare it to other teams that are tops in certain categories, see what they’re doing, see if you need to adjust it. Where is your personnel at? What are the challenges? It just adds another layer of putting together a system and a team."
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But like Tyler Dellow for me is one of these guys that is a great asset to a staff. And he was a big part of our team moving forward in a spot where we were suffering. I think last year we were at like 44% Corsi, which is just terrible as a team. And we were able to push that to right around 51 by the time I was fired. And that number of 51, over the long term, will eventually pay some dividends
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