[mrkajz44]

And since I have a computer now and can view the thread so much earlier - I'm going to continue to drive for my case against SebC.

(Sorry - cannot get the quoting to work properly)

After GGG was banned and showed Oiler, SebC's first two posts were these:

Post - #531

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15
It makes me think that the last Oiler fan is potentially a new player or someone less strategic.

A great reason to not discuss what the smart kill strategy is. A mistake could be made that would help the town immensely.

So HG is trying to figure out why the Oiler's killed who they did in the night phase and Seb jumps in to shut down that talk. As Flames fans, we should always be trying to understand the known Oiler's moves - we have very few of them to go on, so every move made by the Oiler's should be analyzed. Seb's "don't talk about strategy as it will inform mafia" is silly in my eyes - Oiler's already know everything with Fuzz already being outed and killed, so why not talk strategy?

#555

A couple points about me:

- While I did not end up with a vote on GGG, I still think I had a fairly important role in getting him lynched.
- I said that GGG should be lynched Day 4, even if I'm dead. Am I planning to die before he does, and get him off the hook that way? Why, then, would I not fake a freudian slip or something to advance that plan?
- I was aware of the traction that the GGG vote had, and felt a bit guilty for starting it as early as I did in that nothing else really got discussed, thus making it an easy day for mafia to hide their tracks. Disclosing my alternate theory, and the vote to support that, was an attempt to make up for it, and set the game up better going forward.
- If I were troll, would I really want to move off GGG, knowing that he would flip mafia? Knowing that even if he were to survive the day he would be unlikely to make it to the endgame (with me having said that he should not)? Moving off him only made sense because I did not have certainty of his alignment (nor that of crazy_eoj).

So after first telling everyone to not talk strategy, his second post is him explaining why he is not connected to GGG. There was a vote on him early and some talk about him being a suspect, so I can understand why this post might be made, but interesting how he's making points for why he's not connected to GGG rather than use points for how he's acted in a Flames manner.

He finally stops talking about himself in post #588 but asks when its best to do his big reveal on his strategy. This is so odd - has anyone thought "I've got a good theory on who is an Oiler, but instead of sharing it, I'll keep it to myself and just tease it to the group"? It makes no sense to me. Everyone else is sharing their thoughts as they come up - that's what drives discussion and helps flesh out ideas.

So there you have it - his votes don't look very good from a Flames fan perspective, and his actions on Day 3 when there is only one Oiler left don't look very Flames fan to me.