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Originally Posted by Looger

hmmm, i could have sworn i posted a huge list of iran's previous violations with the IAEA, but here you say i think they're an innocent victim! do you make appearances at parties, what are your rates?

Well based on your first 2 posts in this thread - which where quite long - i didn't read the rest of the thread. In those first 2 posts, you where giving quite the opposite vibe:

Originally Posted by Looger

iran has fully complied with the IAEA inspections.

Implying they have.

Originally Posted by Looger

that support never arrived and iran embarked on its own enrichment program.

Implying the west never wanted to help, when i clearly stated Russia and 3 EU countries offered to build and help fund a LWR on 2 seperate occasions -- the post you completely ignored might i add.

Originally Posted by Looger

iran isn't any more altruistic than anyone else in the mideast. they want control of their own destiny, and they've realized that if countries keep getting invaded that a good deterrant may be the ability to strike back.

Looger, would you make up your mind? Stop the contradictions:

Originally Posted by Looger

the common iranians get behind these extremists only because everything they foam at the mouth aboot, seems to be coming true. the US really does look like it'll strike. israel really does look like it'll use nuclear bunker busters to go after a nonexistant nuclear weapons program.

What is it? A nonexistant nuclear program or aquiring the bomb for deterrent? You make absolutly no sense.

Originally Posted by Looger

his rhetoric is ugly, his motives are extremely questionable, the look in his eyes is crazy. how this is different than israel, is the focus of our media.

Your comparing Israel to Iran?

I'm no fan of Israel, thats for sure. I've been in my fair share of debates supporting the palestinians 100%. Nevertheless, we are talking about 1 nuclear weapon that could whipe out 70% of Israels population in 1 go. Israel has every right to be using threats.

This regime has denied the holocaust repeatedly, refuses to recognize Israel and a regime which has insisted on a handfull of occasions that it wants to "Wipe Israel off the map" as well as pursuing the most destructive weapon known to man. After all that has been said, your prepared to give Iran the benefit of the doubt and say a bomb will simply be used as a Deterrent? That is simply ridiculous.

You are also implying the Iranian government is enjoying wide-spread support. I think your wrong here. I have several friends who have traveled back and forth to Iran, read Iranian blogs and have familes in Iran. Lots do not support the Ayatollah's or the current government. Iran is also the largest "Islamic State" that do not practice religion. Despite popular beliefe, a good chunk of Iranians aren't that religious - this hard-line religious stance has simply been foreced upon them since the 1979 relovution. During the elections, thousands of people where barred from voting as well as opposition political parties banned from campaigning.

The support for the current elite in power is not as inflated as the media likes to portray it, or how most believe. Iran is pretty modest from what i've heard, read and witnessed through my peers.

Originally Posted by Looger

iran can kill more sailors iin one day with their sunburn missiles than troops that iraqi insurgents have been able to kill in almost four years, no matter what numbers you use.

Your also giving the vibe that Iran has the ability to whipe out the US Navy in the gulf, or atleast inflict huge casualties on sailors based there - with a sunborn missile AKA Moskit?

The SS-N-22 or the SS-N-9 are outdated weapon systems built by the Soviet Union in the 1970s and can easily be handed by the numorous lines of defense the US Navy has at hand - which are much more to-date.

I can talk weapons systems with you all day, but quite frankly, i don't have the energy or desire because i know your antics. You will simply just turn logical thinking into a conspiracy debate and i don't have the time nor patients to deal with such ridiculous comments, so instead, i'll leave you with this:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ran/index.html
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ems/index.html

Do your own research and comparisons, most systems Iran has are outdated and useless in modern US-combat.

Originally Posted by Looger

is the US CENTCOM contemplating starting a conflict while thousands of its sailors / marines are in the crosshairs of these things? do they need a massive killoff of their own servicemen to justify nuking iran and maybe making their big push to seize their birthright?

Your the one clearly doing the "Fear Mongering".