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Old 01-23-2019, 09:44 AM   #1693
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The correlation between the value of labour and the cost of living are not direct and would vary by jurisdiction but minimum wage should be a big blanket and nor do either have anything to do with ethics..
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This is some good stuff. Cognitive Dissonance 101.
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You see a business owner making money but not paying his workers what you consider to be a 'living wage' which is a nebulous and fictitious concept in and of itself, much like 'Social License' which I gather you're also a fan of, ergo this business owner, to your standards, is unethical.
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Holding people to an unreasonable and fluctuating personal standard, if you think about it, is also pretty unethical.
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I wonder if EI is a 'Living Wage?' If it isnt, is EI then morally reprehensible?
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1. Your posts would be much better without the overuse of inflammatory dramatics, it’s very hard to read and take seriously, and you do have a position worth expressing, so that’s a shame.

2. Your definition of “ethics,” “cognitive dissonance,” and “living wage” are all off.

Ethics: it would not be unethical to hold someone to a personal ethical standard, nor is it unethical or strange to hold “personal” ethics, as literally every single person does (should?) have them. Group ethics are essentially a loose collection of the moral principles we all more or less agree to. Not only that, but economics (among essentially everything else) is absolutely influenced by ethics, and to suggest it is separate would be wrong. Economics MAY be more efficient without the influence of ethics, but so would most things.

Cognitive dissonance: I’m not sure how you were trying to define it here. Cognitive dissonance is the mental pressure caused by dealing with conflicting information, essentially. So if Psyche was complaining about how immoral not paying a living wage was, but he was also a business owner refusing to pay a living wage, that would be cognitive dissonance “101.” It just doesn’t really apply here.

Living wage: Unlike “social license” which is a broad concept that can’t actually be defined or measured both in the factors that increase/decrease it and the payoff/consequences of having a high/low social license, living wage is a mathetical equation based on established and readily available information. Not sure where the comparison is to you, but the comparison is poor.

...so, keep posting, because when you’re on you’re on, but these kind of posts that are both meant to be inflammatory and include a significant amount of bad information don’t move the conversation forward.
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