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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Uh. What?
This defies belief. McDonough is playing 22-25 minutes a night for Tampa, the best team in the league by far.
Rick Nash scored 2 game winning goals last year in the playoffs.
Statsny was the 4th highest scorer for his conference final team.
Hartman, sure, but Nashville was desperate for offense after not being able to score enough then year prior and Hartman was 22/23 19 goal scorer.
If.sam Bennett scored 19 goals last year and was on pace for more points this year, what would you be asking for in a trade?
Bad trades happen at the deadline, but none of them are in the examples you're listing here, and they definitely are not cautionary tale of things the flames should avoid.
Saying a 1st for McDonough didnt move the needle for Tampa is like saying a 1st for Hamonic doesnt move the needle for Calgary. Just baffling.
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TB doing just as well this year means they weren't in win now mode last year I guess. As I said McDonough is different because he was not a rental. And Hamonic not only was not a rental, he was on a great contract. If the Flames can pick up a guy who's not a rental for a first on that level, fine.
But how far did those teams each get in the POs? And would they have gotten that far anyway?
Look at Boston. Nash scores two GWG, and Boston wins a round. You don't think Boston wins against Toronto anyway? Boston won its games 5-1, 7-3, 3-1, 7-4. Nash's GWG in the second game made it 4-0. He scored 2 goals in the first game blowout in the second round. That was it and the Bruins went out in 5.
Look at Winnipeg. Do you think Jets fans remember the 2018 POs fondly? Stastny played really well until the WCF, where he got zippo. But I think the Jets beat Minnie with or without him and had a good chance against Nashville without him. Now the Jets have no pick and no Stastny.
Most people are proposing first rounders for rentals like Stone. If you do that IMO you'd better win a cup. No one remembers how well your rental played in a losing effort at the next draft.