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Originally Posted by Eric Vail
I don't disagree with your main point, but your history was still littered with mistakes that needed correcting. You suggested the Stamps were a mess for 5 years and that was followed up by another by saying "at least 5 years" and they stayed that way until the Flames saved them - which is not true at all. It was three years and they were saved by Ted Hellard and his group. Let's give credit where it is due and not exaggerate the one down period the Stamps have had in the last 30 years.
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I like that you filled in my missing or misplaced information... I thought your recollection was pretty spot on, and I said "oh yes" that was missing or that's what (really) happened as I read it. I wasn't really going for accuracy - just comparing the two from my flawed recollection - the point is, that we had a terrible owner that meddle with the on field product when he had no idea what he was doing, put pieces in place, and removed pieces, that really made no sense as far as football operations go.
Just like what Katz is doing - how many GM's or VP's of Hockey Operations, or Presidents' would survive what Chia or MacT or Lowe did... I mean just the Griffin Reinhart trade would (or should) get at least one of them fired... unless Katz made that call himself, which is totally plausible and probable and I suspect it's the case. Jay Feaster did far less, and his mistake over that Colorado offer sheet didn't cost the Flames a thing, and he was fired over that (which could have been just an excuse). Regardless of whether Katz hired incompetent mangers he idolized and/or he made those bad decisions himself, the problems still remain at the very top, it's not Todd McLellan's fault or Hall's fault... you can shuffle those deck chairs on the Titanic Oilers all you want, until you solve the issues in the Captain's chair - that ship is still going to sink and stay at the bottom.