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Originally Posted by GreenLantern
No matter what happens going forward, I'm happy for Malmoa that Aquaman was a success, he seems like a solid dude. Maybe DC should just try to keep their heroes separate for a while and let them enjoy individual success.
Obviously shoe horning in team movies isn't working for them.
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I can't see them doing much shoe horning together for a while because the two leaders of the Justice League in Batman and Superman are probably off the table for a few years for recasts and reboots.
Ok, I've been thinking about this for a bit.
Does Marvel always seem to get higher rated movies then DC? Yes absolutely yes.
But here's why.
I think that the Marvel Universe has done a far better job of making their hero's relatable and human under their masks and armor and a lot more relaxed.
Was Thor One not a great movie? Sure, but Thor himself was fun and human and flawed until the end. Even the secondary hero's in the Avengers universe are fun and enjoyable and you really want to like them.
DC in their movie verse has really struggled with it to the point, where you sometimes feel like they're characters are props. Batman or the Affleck Batman is just not as interesting or human as Bale's was. Nor was Superman, but the problem with Superman is really the focus on superman over Clark Kent, he's almost a robot. Wonder Woman came the closest, but again in the end of the first movie she ended up feeling like a above reproach DC hero and it really flattened her out in Justice League.
The other big problem is villains. The Villains to this point in the DC Universe have been pretty bad, like really bad.
Lex Luthor in Batman vs Superman was awful, and it goes more to a terrible miscast by an actor that plays the same guy in every movie. They basically made Lex into a one dimensional mustache swirling twit.
Steppenwolf in Justice League was actually really terrible and boring and over CGI'd and you didn't really care about him.
In fact there was so little emotional buy in during Batman vs Superman that you didn't in the end really care about either character and they needed Wonderwoman to add some color.
I also think that making the Justice League movie that soon was a massive mistake because there was no investment in the main characters, they hadn't been fleshed out.
Now you look at Marvel and they did a few things really well. They made real 3 dimensional characters and really fleshed them out before bringing them together in the Avengers. All of these characters had serious personalities and personality flaws that you as an audience member could get invested in.
Was Iron Man 2 bad? Sure but it helped build up the type of character that Stark was.
The other thing that has been really well done in the Marvel Universe is the villains. Thanos is an amazing sympathetic villain for example. Their villains are real villains with flaws and reasons that you can buy into them. Even the side villain in Civil War, the guy who drove the wedge was a sympathetic character that you could invest in.
In Wonderwoman Gail Gadot saved that movie because the villain, wasn't great or all that interesting, and again turned into a mustache twirling version of Darth Vader on downers.
DC is really missing out on the humanization of their characters and the need for people to invest in those characters.