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Old 12-25-2018, 09:39 PM   #480
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Originally Posted by Jay Random View Post
Appeal to authority is not a fallacy unless the authority is irrelevant to the question. The best practices of generations of coaches in the NHL and at every level of professional hockey are highly relevant to this question, and an appeal to their authority is not, as such, fallacious. Your own personal opinion carries no such relevance, and given the choice between the two of them, I know which one I would rather go with.

Since it became normal for teams to carry backup goalies and give them starts – that is, roughly since the 1967 expansion, when the season simply became too long for one goalie to start every single game as Glenn Hall used to do – the vast majority of coaches have managed their goalies’ workloads to give some starts to the backups and some rest days to the starters.

Your quote from the ‘Brodeur is a fraud’ website is of no relevance, since the data were self-selected: that is, the same professional coaches who are responsible for managing their starters' workload decided that those particular starters were fit to play in that number of games. Moreover, the data are for regular-season games only, whereas fatigue is generally said to become a significant factor in the playoffs. A goalie in top condition can often play 70 or 75 games in a season – but if he has played them all in the regular season, the wear and tear on his body will be such that he will not be at his best in the postseason. Ex hypothesi, one would not even expect to see a dip in performance before the regular season ends.

Incidentally, a website called ‘Brodeur is a fraud’, when it publishes an article intended to show that there was nothing special about Brodeur's endurance, can hardly be regarded as an unbiased source. The entire blog existed so one particular blogger could grind his axe. The argument is half-baked, because the author was far too eager to yank it out of the oven and fling it in Martin Brodeur's face.

Do you have a contribution in terms of info?

That guy changed his site to contrarian goaltender, and he seems to have taken decent looks at lots of data. In fact he took a look at Smith’s one good Phoenix season.

Generally, I really don’t follow your logic.

Goalies get fatigued due to workload but only and suddenly in the playoffs? Jay Random indeed.

Data reflecting the performance of goalies who play 70-75 games is not relevant for assessing effect of fatigue on the goalies because their coaches elected to play them?
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