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Old 12-19-2018, 11:55 PM   #3615
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction View Post
Winning a trade is fine, as long the other GM (or GMs) do not feel like you pulled a fast one. There has to be transparency and honesty to show that you are dealing in good faith. A big part of the job is building trust and relationships.

If you "win" a trade, I don't think any GM would hold it against you. But if you purposely "fleece" the other GM by not disclosing any and all issues, it wouldn't be good for your reputation. Maybe it's just my definition of the word "fleece" in this scenario, but I take it as meaning that one side took advantage. The dictionary definition is "to swindle". No one wants to deal with someone that swindles another person.

For example, if Carolina traded Lindholm or Hanifin and misled the Flames on the contract requests, it would be bad. Or if a player is being traded because of locker room or off ice issues and the team didn't mention those, and resulted in a "fleecing", it would hurt their rep.

It's a general principle in business. If you are selling something and you ask why the person is selling, if they don't give you an honest answer and it backfires on you, you are not going to rush to do business with that person in the future, nor would many other people. If Treliving can work out a professional relationship with Carolina where the trades are fair for both, it would be really beneficial in the future.
You’re making it sound far more formal then it is. Agents are involved here too, as are pro scouts,who chat informally with the other teams pro scouts, who,all chat with the GMs of both teams. PR guys, other team officials, etc, there is a lot of people who can discuss a player or situation with their counterparts on another team long before a trade is consummated. Other players can chat with players on the other team and get that intel about locker room issues too. In this day and age with all the instant electronic communication, any team who gets surprised by an issue, haven’t properly done their basic homework.

Carolina had an owner who wanted to make changes, sooner than later as soon as he came in. As soon as it was official back in Feb or March, agents started feeling out the team for their contract renegotiation likelihood, a guy like Peters likely had discreet discussions with his situation, etc etc.

And what issues? Boston when trading Hamilton, hinted at the same things hinted at publically about Hamilton on his way out of Calgary, behind the scenes I’m sure people on Carolina like people around the league, were well aware of the potential for those issues to arise again. Ferland had concussion issues here too, that’s on video at very least, and IR from last year and probably going back to Brandon too.
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