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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
So you’re saying Flames received mid second round pick value for Fox in that trade? That may be right but curious as to how you are so certain.
As I said, what I really object to is the notion that unsigned Fox was worth nothing to the Flames. Because for one thing, it’s not binary: signed or unsigned. Its a spectrum of likelihood to sign from 0 to 100 that affects the “control” piece of the value. And we don’t know what that was. And even if it was zero, his value isn’t zero unless it’s clear he would refuse to sign with anyone, or only one team.
The chatter after the deal was done was meant to make people think the likelihood was low, thereby changing their relative perception of value obtained.
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No one is saying his value was zero. But there is plenty of evidence that the likelihood of signing him had dropped - quite possibly to near zero. Therefore his value dropped with it. Not to zero of course, but definitely lower. And the number of teams that we could trade him to was also lower (some talk for instance that he wasn't going to sign with any Cdn team).
Not sure what you're trying to argue here. There is little doubt that his value was depleted due to the situation. From that, we can speculate what that value might have become, but it's pretty pointless, because there are 3 assets involved and no one will ever agree on the exact value of any one of them.
All we can do is look at the trade and say the deal was:
Lindholm + Hanifin = Hamilton + Ferland + X, where X probably isn't very high (2nd or 3rd maybe)