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Originally Posted by LWcrowfoot
I know. We're in agreement. Some people suggested he's a throw in, and I was disagreeing with that and saying it shouldn't be viewed that way. I don't know why I'm giving that away weight, maybe because it's a discussion forum and I was replying to it.
As for Fox being viewed as "not much value" in the trade. Those thoughts are my own at the time of the trade. With some hindsight perhaps I've either overvalued Hamilton or Ferland and undervalued Lindholm. The deal seemed close as a 2v2, Fox seemed like a massive sweetener. Perhaps I'm wrong, that's a possibility too.
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Yeah it's a pretty complicated deal and if one looks at it just play for player I don't think it really is a complete picture.
I think additional key factors in the trade were
- Years of control remaining for the players (the Flames had the edge here)
- Whether the players were signed (Lindholm issue for the Canes)
- Fox's complicated situation with a high end prospect however some value degradation due to uncertainty of him signing
I think on paper it's an even deal. Near-term I give the edge to the Flames from the POV because they basically turned back the clock on their window somewhat. Their pieces are locked down, the Canes pieces aren't. Now if the Canes sign Fox and he ends up being a good or great player - it will swing it back to be more even
But even then from the Flames POV we can't assume they would have signed Fox, so the only thing is did they extract enough value out of the asset. And I think they did because the trade has been impactful and I don't think it happens without Fox in there