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Old 11-10-2018, 02:19 AM   #507
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Originally Posted by craigwd View Post
I think it's very unfair for so people to call Mary Moran, Mary Conibear and Scott Hutcheson, the 3 faces of the 2026 Bid, "corrupt".

They are working extremely hard, have put in countless hours and respond to every question with dignity and respect. They have also done so much research and put a lot of effort into creating this bid.

Oppose the bid on it's own for whatever reason, but don't question their character; especially with the work they've done in the past. Was Moran corrupt when she helped created the Amazon Fight A Bear campaign with the CED? Was Conibear corrupt when she was managing operations during Vancouver 2010, was Hutcheson corrupt when he chairs non-profit organizations?

Please check these insults at the door. They are Sean Chu "Calgary 2026 made me think of Enron" levels of ridiculousness.
I'll double down on my comment that they've corrupted the process.

But you are right - it's not fair to call them corrupt. They could be corrupt. They might just be incompetent. Or brainwashed. Or subconsciously biased to the extreme. But it doesn't really matter which of the above it is. The result, in my view, is that they failed their mandate. And it's not even close. If they put in a lot of hours, they ended up spending those hours producing really bad work and attempting to mislead the public.

The overriding mandate of the bidco was to provide Calgarians with a detailed and accurate cost estimate and hosting details of the games.

The bidco has blatantly failed because its so biased towards a "pro-bid" outcome. First the estimates are garbage. Theyre not accurate (they're not a midpoint of a normally distrusted curve). They don't have uncertainty bands around the cost estimates. And these are extremely important because Calgary is responsible for the cost overruns. So they failed in this core aspect of their mandate And second, the bidco is spearheading a huge promotional campaign centered around spinning the numbers favourably to the point where they might be saying things that aren't even true. There is a huge difference between promoting the bid and disceminating propaganda. So I would say they failed in the second aspect of their mandate as well.

How does a bidco fail these mandates so spectacularly if their not corrupt, incompetent or brainwashed? They don't.

See this link: https://newsroom.calgary.ca/calgary-...air-announced/

"Calgary 2026, with support from its partners, will complete the bid exploration and development work that began in 2016. Calgary 2026 will clarify the vision and details of a potential Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games, and will develop a more accurate hosting cost estimate."


Or this link: http://www.calgary.ca/CSPS/Recreatio...px#calgary2026


"Calgary 2026 bid corporation was established in June 2018 and is working to develop a bid for Calgary to host the 2026 Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games"


Or this link: https://www.calgary2026.ca/en/who-we-are/

"We’re Calgary 2026, an organization tasked to explore, develop and promote a responsible bid to host the 2026 Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games. But at the end of the day, our goal is to provide clear and accurate hosting details and costs so you have the information you need to make an informed decision when you vote on Nov. 13."
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